Pro game artist looking for help/collaboration

[Einstein]

I am not an Amiga coder.  I do work in pregramming.  I could help with Amos and Blitz basic.   Where it comes to ASM though i have no idea.  I know basic but not amos or blitz.  So I am not sure what help I could be

It could be the medication I'm on as I write, but....huh ?

[Khephren]

The problem with 32 colors is that you can't move so much objects on screen (well, less than when in 16 colors mode) and for a shoot'em up it's quite cool having many sprites to shoot ! ;-) In lowres 16 colors, the Amiga blitter can move +64 bobs (16x16 pixels, 8 colors per bob)

This is for unexpanded machines though? And most Amigans still around either have expansions or use winuae.

I'd put the baseline at 4 possibly 8mb and 28mhz processor.
It would be nice to see what that spec could achieve, it didn't get many pro games, as we all had that towards the end of the Amiga's life.

What little time I have, i'm willing to donate. Iv'e been a video games artist (mainly 3D and texture maps, but could certainly turn my hand to paletted tiles). for the last 13 years, with some design credits also.

I'd certainly want to make games with a decent engine though, although my main love would be to do a dungeon master style Sci-fi game with rendered graphics.

[Michael V. Parent]

My personal goal is to actually make some butt-kicking NON-enhanced Classic Amiga games (stock OCS,ECS, and AGA), BUT that shouldn't stop everyone else from from contributing to engines and games for suped up Amiga's...clearly though for drastically more powerful Amiga's, the tricks we've been discussing are almost a non-issues...that kind of processing power could simulate several playfields in 256 color mode, no?

[commodorejohn]

Yeah, I'd like to see more development for baseline systems as well. (Though it would be nice to see development for expanded systems that isn't just a bunch of SDL ports...)

[Digiman]

Yeah, I'd like to see more development for baseline systems as well. (Though it would be nice to see development for expanded systems that isn't just a bunch of SDL ports...)

I will do 7mhz 68000 OCS. Possibly 14mhz OCS palette for 020 or AGA 14mhz 020 as extra but mostly for 512kb-1mb 1985 Amiga A1000 spec is MY target.

So A500-2000 is covered. Accelerators are too rare and too expensive! Even I don't have one.

[commodorejohn]

Basic accelerators aren't that hard to come by. But I have to wonder how many more people would get back into the Amiga scene if it were as active on the hardware they have sitting around in the attic as it is on pimped-out PPC boxes...

[Michael V. Parent]

Those are my thoughts too...allowing ALL owners of even the most basic Amiga to pull their systems out of the attics, and experience all new and even more impressive games...reminding them how truely amazing their Amiga's really were.
 
It's also just been my dream since my early teens to make the most breathtaking game for a stock Amiga 500 ever created.

[Amiten]

Many Dreams and much to do...  :sealed:

[commodorejohn]

It's also just been my dream since my early teens to make the most breathtaking game for a stock Amiga 500 ever created.

You'll have to beat me to it!

...okay, that's entirely possible. I swear I'm getting around to it, really!

[AmiMSX]

I will do 7mhz 68000 OCS. Possibly 14mhz OCS palette for 020 or AGA 14mhz 020 as extra but mostly for 512kb-1mb 1985 Amiga A1000 spec is MY target.

So A500-2000 is covered. Accelerators are too rare and too expensive! Even I don't have one.

Yes, I have the same spec target for my game project, I limited myself to 15 colors(+transparant), no scroll, no sprites, no bobs, the only thing moving beeing the arrow to select different options ! ;-)
Actually, my main focus is the playability and the fun factor.

The problem with very technically game projects is that they require a massive amount of time to develop. So people with great ideas and talents often give up after some time, they lose their motivations during the very long time consuming development process... It's unfortunately a quite frequent case in the "retro comp scenes"...

[Digiman]

One of my ideas is something 2.5D (ie Sega Afterburner/Outrun type scaling graphics engine) so unavoidably it has to be technically good otherwise it will fail.

My plan is to test it works, then get help making it ASM code from my working algorithms. Think SEGA arcade hardware from late 80s meets forest areas of Oblivion game.

Could be horrible could be awesome. Who knows

[Michael V. Parent]

Yes, I have the same spec target for my game project, I limited myself to 15 colors(+transparant), no scroll, no sprites, no bobs, the only thing moving beeing the arrow to select different options ! ;-)
Actually, my main focus is the playability and the fun factor.
 
The problem with very technically game projects is that they require a massive amount of time to develop. So people with great ideas and talents often give up after some time, they lose their motivations during the very long time consuming development process... It's unfortunately a quite frequent case in the "retro comp scenes"...

 
THATS the whole point of collecting this info and making these libraries and open source code examples..(and tools)..
 
It will allow for any team to do drastically more and better in drastically less time.
 
I've already given the comunity the exact system for creating translucent/tinting effects on any Amiga...this can now be used by EVERYONE making Amiga games without needed to fumble around and try to figure it out themselves...in fact, NOW many Amiga game creators might stuble on my example and use the trick when otherwise they might never even considered it a posibility.
 
Same will be for the Sprite BG trick, Palette change tricks (within a level, not just copper rainbows etc), etc etc..

[Khephren]

So what is being aimed for Michael? a suite of libraries, or a game maker like backbone?

This looks like it would be handy:http://aminet.net/package/dev/src/ScrollingTrick


EDIT: I wonder if it would be worth getting hold of the source to backbone (if it even exists), and replacing key functions? Or would it be faster from scratch? I'm only a poor artist, so excuse me if it's a dumb idea.

[SamuraiCrow]

Backbone was written in AmosPro but the source has been lost.  It will probably be faster from scratch.

[jj]

It could be the medication I'm on as I write, but....huh ?

 
Nope its me
 
What I am saying is that I can code, I do not know AMOS or BLITZ specfically but feel fairly confident I could pick them up pretty quickly and help.
 
I can code in VB .net, Amstrad CPC basic, and some other versions of basic.

[Amiten]

Don´t know what Michael really want, cordinate people from here?, make a new game company? or tell us his dreams?.
 
 
Regards
Amiten