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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga community support ideas => Topic started by: ackcontrols on April 04, 2006, 06:44:31 PM
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Hello,
Yes....the project is late.....yes I haven't been able to source the connectors. I'm asking for anyone who has a line on a source of the A1200 CPU female connector to e-mail me at a.kowalczyk@sympatico.ca. Similarly, please email me if you intend to purchase a PowerVixxen LT for your A1200 as I need to know an approximate quantity if/when I get a manufacturer to make them.
Sincerely,
Adam Kowalczyk
ACK Software Controls, Inc.
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Thanks for the update.
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What's the proposed price range?
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i don't know much about OS4, but is it WarpOS/Warp3D compatable?
otherwise yes i am very interested...
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@darksun9210
You cant run 68k OS on it because there is no 68k CPU if this is what you mean by Warp'OS' compatibility. (If you mean WarpUp in general there is WarpUp emu lib in OS4.)
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i was just thinking about running the powerpc games i got from hyperion... heretic2, wipeout2097 etc... :-? is there no 68k emulation?
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I have 2 A1200's and am interested in your accelerator. Where can I find the latest information on the specifications and your estimated cost to us consumers/beta testers?
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good ol' google :-) vixeen LT (http://safir.amigaos.se/article_ack_eng.html)
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I'll take 1 please. Maybe 2 but I'm not sure. Gonna depend on pricing and specs.
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Well i'm in if you can get it out soon, I'm a nightmare for spending all my available funds on Music equipment ;)
Then again it would be a nice portable sequencer (Really it would)
Yeah i'm in LOL
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@darksun9210
As OS4 has 68k, WarpOS emulation and Warp3D support then you should be good to go.
However Warp3D support will be dependant on Adam's mini pci graphics card becoming available or a Mediator + Voodoo being present in your system.
Most powerPC Amiga games have a software render mode built in, sadly Wipeout 2097 is hardware only.
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Flexinoodl wrote:
Well i'm in if you can get it out soon, I'm a nightmare for spending all my available funds on Music equipment ;)
Then again it would be a nice portable sequencer (Really it would)
Better than a second hand PowerBook?
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bloodline wrote:
Flexinoodl wrote:
Well i'm in if you can get it out soon, I'm a nightmare for spending all my available funds on Music equipment ;)
Then again it would be a nice portable sequencer (Really it would)
Better than a second hand PowerBook?
infidel!
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If it works with the mediator and it's not to expensive (around 500$ is ok). Then you have a customer right here.
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The target price is $299.00 USD MSRP for the board and an OEM copy of OS4. Taxes and shipping would be extra.
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I'd take one for $299. No idea where to get CPU connectors.
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$299.00??? That's awesome! I've spent way more than that on buying classic stuff. If that's the price point I think you've got a real winner here!
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ackcontrols wrote:
The target price is $299.00 USD MSRP for the board and an OEM copy of OS4. Taxes and shipping would be extra.
Then the answer is HELL YES!!! :-o
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Me also one for that kind of money!
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299 USD is great price but i live in turkey. If tax and shipping be not too much then OK.
Yes i want :-D
(sorry for grammar)
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If the A4000 version makes it then i will have one..
Sounds like a great addon.
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i want 2 . One for my RBM TOWER for my infinitiv TOWER(VIVA GREX!!!!)
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i want 2 . One for my RBM TOWER and one for my infinitiv TOWER(VIVA GREX!!!!)
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I want one too. Have got plenty of towers but prefer to wait and see how the first one will please me or not. If it does then I surely will buy a 2nd one :)
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Sorry for my ignorance but is the female connector this item:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=419&osCsid=f613eeafb0e8d903fc8e93ff82930854
In terms of potential orders I'm always willing to keep the classic alive - presumably Amigakit would stock such an item.
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When this product arrives, we will be happy to stock it.
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At ~$300, I'll take one for standalone use, assuming it's plausible to run standalone. (I assume there's a known-good MiniPCI graphics card by now, and there'll be enough firmware support for at least one model of card to make sure analog VGA output can be active at boot?)
With this talk of a 'terminator' on the website, you're obviously thinking of using one of the million generic USB 'universal docking stations'/'universal port replicators' already in existence, right? At least one of those must have 'good enough' USB audio onboard.
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I would by one if it was the ONLY (decently priced) way for me to run OS4. To be honest, I'd be more interested in a standalone version or a version for the A4000T (I'd buy that in a heartbeat!)
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I was initially interested in the A1200 version.
However if the A4000 version is out first I will be interested in this one.
I might get both if the price is in the $300 range.
bty - Any news on miniPCI graphics and any Linuxes targeting this board?
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Awesome,
I'm more interested in a card for an A4000D as an initial purchase although I have a bare A1200 kicking around. For a $300 price tag, well the money has just been earmarked so produce the product and you have a sale :-D
If you do manage to release sometime soonish then I'm sure there will be decent demand, the community is wound like a spring waiting for "any" new hardware to play with and especially the chance for a bit of OS4 love!
Springs wound too much eventually snap so I hope you come through. :-)
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@ackcontrols
Will it still be able to operate in stand-alone mode? If so, then YES, most definately will order one.
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@ackcontrols
I will buy atleast one of these :)
fuskoSCN
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@Adam
I'm in for when it's available standalone, including with/if a reasonable price increase. (As it hasn't been stated yet about if mini-PCI card is included with the A1200 version, or not that I'm aware of, plus whatever 'terminator'/breakout costs there may be.)
Unsure about A1200 version, as I'd have to pick up an A1200. If it was definite the standalone version was going to be available and could purchase the 'terminator' seperately, I'd likely go ahead and buy an A1200 and the PV, then convert it later to standalone.
If you're not aware, there's also some additional questions after we posted your IRC comments (not too surprisingly), you may or may not want to comment on:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=18483&forum=33
(or here, but obviously there remain some questions people have..)
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How about a pic of the final designed of the board?
Dammy
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@Adam
Posting a photo of prototype boards would go a long way. Hint, hint, hint.. :-)
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Darn you dammy, you beat me to it! :whack:
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ackcontrols wrote:
The target price is $299.00 USD MSRP for the board and an OEM copy of OS4. Taxes and shipping would be extra.
Email sent. If you come anywhere near that price I would order it without hesitation.
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Another customer right here, gotta have one of these and for $299,- i consider it a bargain :-D
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We have our first baby on the way ('only' if I can help it!) so funds are tight, but I'm sure I can slip £150 out of the account for this.
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@Adam
One here for standalone.
Rude!
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Adam, you obviously have an item that will sell well if made available. Are you currently only looking for the people who will purchase the A1200 version.
I would love the A3000 version (I have 2 A3k's) but don't have an A1200. I would, however, purchase the A1200 version if it is usable as stand alone with some additional parts to fit the case.
Maybe a poll would help sort this.
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Put me down for one too Adam.
Not sure where to get the connectors though. Anyone know where Elbox gets theirs?
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Count me in for the A1200 one!
Thanks!
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I'm already on getting these connectors from far-east. I have a few manufacturers for edge connectors, and requested a number of items from them. Since the order quantity for each of them meets or exceeds minimum order quantities, I'm positive to have the connectors within the usual 14 weeks. However, none of the parts has been confirmed to be RoHS compliant, and I will not buy anything that's *not* RoHS compliant. In other words: The 14 weeks start counting after I found a supplier who can confirm compliance, so no chance to have an arrival date in Europe yet.
Also note that I have a large stock (a few thousand) of A4000 accelerator connectors that could be used for your design. I'm happy to sell them to you at cost, because these are not RoHS compliant (they most probably contain lead on the solderpins - my X-Ray measurement device has not arrived yet).
Jens Schönfeld
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I will buy whatever version that comes first. Both a1200 and a4000 versions will suit me fine.
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Adam, I will buy a standalone model
(that's of course if i don't get a hold of an A1 first :->)
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PowerVixxen Or AROS Box, PowerVixxen Or AROS Box, PowerVixxen Or AROS Box, UHgggg!
Will it fix in a standard A1200 case? If not what dimensions are we looking at? Will it be able to work standalone as I've heard?
Here I was fixing up my A1200 to sell it. I suppose I could hang onto it for a few more months. More Amiga time for me! :-D
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@ACKCONTROLS
Do you plan to answer 20 Q&A from moderator?
My questions:
1. Is there any official license from Amiga Inc on expansion board and stand alone?
2. Is this board suitable for automotive/aerospace/marines embedded applications? Is there any rugged/hardened version?
3. What about reliability? MTBF, MTTR etc
Is there any built-in watchdog / crash recovery?
4. Is there any support for embedded Linux PowerPC, BSD, QNX, etc?
5. What is the power requirement, cooling system, size & case?
6. Is it possible to use single voltage power supply (ie +12 Volt)?
7. Is there any guarantee about the products/spare parts availability? (at least ..... years)
8. Is there any FPGA on-board? What is the type of BIOS?
9. Is there any official website, address, contact information etc?
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Hi ACK, I'm in for the A4000(T) version for sure.
HammerD
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I want one for my A2000 and/or my A3000 desktop.
My A1200/060/Mediator/etc. works just fine the way it is and is to valuable to mess with.
If you can get your card made then you could change the course of computing history.
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Reading about progress on that other Amiga website, I read that ACK says that it is likely that the A3000/A4000 version will be produced first and is a higher spec board.
I want at least one of those too and might want several, as I own 3 A3000's and 3 A4000's. In fact I am more interested in the 3k/4k model boards than the A1200 version.
Can't wait.
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PowerVixxen Or AROS Box, PowerVixxen Or AROS Box, PowerVixxen Or AROS Box, UHgggg!
I'd be asking more technical questions about this product first. So far I have yet to see:
1. Clear photos of the finished product.
2. Clear photos of this finished product running benchmarks.
Guess all the vaporware announcements over the years has left me with alot of "Show me" attitude when it comes to Amiga related hardware announcements and presales requests.
Dammy :popcorn:
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I'd take 1 x A4000 version straight away.
MODERATOR - WE NEED A POLL TO GET THE NUMBERS EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
Glad to see you're still in the game Adam. Best of luck. As many have said, showing a working prototype would be a REALLY good move at this point - solidify those waverers who would buy if they were sure it existed.
May I recommend total amiga magazine (http://www.totalamiga.org) as a good place to publicise your demonstration?
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Either and/or A1200 and A4000 is good for me.
(Do I still gotta email? Sorry a little too much whiskey right after work dulls the senses somewhat)
:horse: : heh mad smiley
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A nice single malt Scotch? Talisker... mmmmmm
-hic
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I'm interested in one for my 1200.
In this thread you can count otehrs users interested:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=18483&forum=33&75
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lol nah yeah ran out for Langueville ( I think that is how it is spelt), so had to go back to the Black Douglas.
The "cow" would be turning in his grave.
As for your TAM reference. Unfortunately, the latest issue just came out... we would have to wait another three months for it to come out! :cry:
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Have enough and don't care anymore about OS4. My Micro AOne is on sale. Bye bye
Ciao
Luca
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Put me down for one for my 1200!
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I`d like two for my A4000s' and one for my A1200
Two for my A2000s' if it a version becomes available.
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I'll buy one A3000/4000 version and one for the A1200.
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I would buy an A1200 one! :-)
(If I liked it I would get an A3K one later but that would be a bit later)
oh yeah, and we want pics!! :-D
(I need a new backdrop)
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lurkist wrote:
We have our first baby on the way ('only' if I can help it!) so funds are tight, but I'm sure I can slip £150 out of the account for this.
we're on our third, so I know exactly what you're going through !
I'm sorely tempted - probly more like 200 nicker though, after exchange, and VAT - my A1200 is a bit left out at the mo !
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An A2000 version would be soooo cool. :-D
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heh, if you're gonna do an A2000 version, surely you can do an A500 version? how about the A600 if you feel the challenge? :-D
count me in for two A1200 versions anyway :-)
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As long as the price holds, put me down for one.
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Chalk me down for an A1200 Version.
How about asking Elbox if they have any edge connectors.
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One A1200 version for me please!
Wow, more than 65 replies in just 1 day. This baby is a killer I guess :lol:
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Well I emailed him saying that I wanted one for the A1200
but reading here people also want one for other Amigas
So this is what I want and Will buy. And it better come out soon befor I speend the money
1xA1200
1xA4000
1xCD32<<< well every one else wants one for other models so
Why not an Amiga CD32 version :)
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Wow, a CD32 version would be nice! :-P
I'm very interested in standalone possibility, too, but I don't know how it would works. :-?
I ask to Mr. Adam Kowalczyk more info about standalone functionality and then I will be one of yours customers! :-P
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How about asking Elbox if they have any edge connectors.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
THAT'S what's holding the dragon project up - lack of edge connectors. It all makes sense now.
Seriously though:
1: Who in the amiga community would want to be totally dependent on Elbox for their business dealings?
2: Why would Elbox supply the competition with needed parts?
Had a good look round the Googleworld for parts - not seeing much in the way of 1.25mm (or 1.27mm) edge connectors, except for PCI and PCI-e production. I do reckon it may be a custom order (+$$$$$$s).
Hopefully an ex-employee of Winner/Micronik/Phase 5/DCE/someone might give Adam a hint as to where they used to order them from. Can't REALLY see Elbox going out of their way to help.
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Hmmm... I've read the board(s) could run stand-alone as well, guess the A1200's only needed for AGA and to keep the possibility of playing hardware bashing games. So, if that's true... Why not put a bunch of ribon-cable style pin-headers where the edgeconnector should come, sell it as a standalone board and for those who really want it to slide into their 1200s there could be the possibility of even pointing to a DIY solution for the edge-connector. That way the 'plumbum' problem could be easily be avoided and... AOS4 ready hardware would be available again.
If prices do include the processor I think it's not bad value when bundled with AOS4 (OEM). Not having an A1200 I'd buy an standalone version.
Or am I totally lost in the woods and is the 1200 a neccesary piece of hardware?
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Based on what I read on the thread on AmigaWorld, the stand-alone version is behind the A1200 version and both of them are running behind the A3000/4000 version. I think the hosted versions are upgradable to stand-alone, however.
BTW, EMail sent. (Don't use the link on the first page because there is an extra period at the end of the email link.)
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Boot_WB wrote:
MODERATOR - WE NEED A POLL TO GET THE NUMBERS EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
Why do you or we need to know the numbers? Adam is the only one that needs to know. He asked when he started this topic. It is easy enought to just check every day or so and count the positive responces. He could have asked us to put up a poll for him but he didn't. Besides, there are quite a few ways voters can manipulate the poll results. Not to mention, this way he gets a worded responce that is better than a Yes or No. Like the questions that have been asked.
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I'm interested in one for my 1200.
And maybe one for my A1000 (why not ? )
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dammy wrote:
PowerVixxen Or AROS Box, PowerVixxen Or AROS Box, PowerVixxen Or AROS Box, UHgggg!
I'd be asking more technical questions about this product first.
It is just that the carrot is being dangled just in visual range. Do you run towards it hoping you can get there or that it is not a mirage or wait an see if it is brough closer?
The Power Vixxen looks to still be alive, though not without problems. Will he be able to get the parts and find a company to produce it? Tune in and find out. :popcorn:
Also, I didn't want to repost what had been posted a few times before. When? Pictures? benchmark? Spec? etc. I hope by now that it would be a forgone conclusion to what the standard questions are. I'm in no hurry, I can hold out a couple of months. If it happens it happens, if it doesn't then AROS Box.
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I would buy one for my A1200T
Lio
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I was seriously thinking about buying a 1200 for the Dragon or Power Vixxen - but an A3000 version would definitely be even more appreciated!
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Count me in for an A4000 Version.
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Email sent. I'm more interested in the standalone version, because I don't have an A1200, A3000 or A4000.
Will have to see what comes first and decide if I want to get a second-hand machine.
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redfox
MicroA1-C (750 GX) + A2000HD (68000)
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Argo wrote:
Why do you or we need to know the numbers? Adam is the only one that needs to know.
Fair enough, I misread the original post. I thought he only wanted emailing regarding the edge connectors.
I have now sent an email adding my voice to the chorus.
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I'm really glad to hear the PowerVixen is still in the pipeline! At $299 there's no reason why every classic Amiga owner who's still interested in this platform shouldn't buy one in a snap.
Just log on e-bay and take a look at the bid amounts for the old Amiga accelerators! Now ACK is offering a BRAND NEW, 400MHz PowerPC accelerator complete with the latest incarnation of OS4 for a paltry $299!
I'd pay more then that to lay my hands on OS4, revitilising my beloved A1200 in the process is an added bonus!! Count me in for both the A1200 and the stand alone version when they become available!
And good luck with your project!
Jethro Tull
P.S. For a future stand alone version, how about a joint venture with the guy who built a classic Amiga on an FPGA? Just immagine a new Amiga incarnation able to run all the classic programs natively besides the new OS4!
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Does this need to be sticked on the main page so people will be sure and see it?
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I would definately buy 1 for one of my A1200s at that price.
I would consider a 2nd one for my other A1200 which overheats sometimes: http://zhulien.kicks-ass.net/pics/amiga/a1200b.jpg (for photo) http://zhulien.kicks-ass.net/pics/amiga/ (more photos)
I would definately buy one for my A4000 if one were available at a similar pricerange (cause it's Cyberstorm is in repair for last 2 years!)
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*bump*
One for me too, please! (A1200)
But some more infos would be _very_ helpful. People should know what they get (specs!) before they can vote wether they want one are not.
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Wow, that board really has the best prequesites
to bring Amiga back to real life ! Cheap, powerful
and compatible with AmigaOS 4.0. But someone must
convince Amiga Inc. to license OS4.0 as OEM to
be bundled with the board. It would be forgiven
chances if Amiga Inc. would not agree !!
Adrian
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i don't see anybody talking about MORPH-OS PowerUp, but if ACK fail to get an AOS4 licence, what will happen ?
Will it run already M.OS because it's quite similar to the BPPC.. ?
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IIRC, since the PowerVixxen LT is an accelerator card rather than a stand-alone computer it will be covered by the host computer's licence eg. the one that Commodore or Amiga Technologies sold you years ago. In short: it already has a licence to the classic versions of AmigaOS 4.
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Sent you an email Adam a few days ago and I'm bumping this cause I want people to see it ;-)
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I'm looking forward to getting my hand on one of these babys. It will make a massive impact on the AMIGA's Comeback, start with the old and make it NEW!!
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Count me in for an A4000D version at that price.
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Jus taken my old 1200 from attic, she's all cleaned up & waiting! :-)
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Count me in for a stand alone A1200 version as long as the price it's still the same.
Thanks
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I`m Intrested in a A4000D & A1200 pvlt
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Count me in as well :-D :-D
Can't wait to get one.
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i want one for my a1200 to... you deliver the hw i buy it...
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Suzuki Katana (http://www.suzuki-tech.com/wiki/Suzuki_Katana)
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I just wanted to add that if given the opportunity I will pre-order one for my A4000D. I would very much like to get one for my A1200 also when it is available.
I appreciate the work you guys are doing on this at AckControls!
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Hi,
mail received this morning :
Chris,
Thanks for your reply and indicating your interest in the PowerVixxen LT. Keep an eye out for an update this week. Several dealers in the EC have shown interest in distributing the PowerVixxen LT. If one doesn't happen to be in your area, they can be ordered directly from me and PayPal will be a viable option.
Adam Kowalczyk
:-D I like these kind of mail
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Maybe i reply late, but i'm interested on PowerVixxen for my A1200, if it works with mediator and for that price. But when will be released?
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I have to admit, if this is viable and for real, I'd be tempted to get a 1200 desktop with one of these puppies in it.
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It has to have the reliability of the Blizzard 1230-IV, the same form factor as that board but this time... with a built in GFX card!
An A1200 desktop version for me please, $500 USD is my preffered price ceiling.
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what about power Vixxen ? any news?
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Indeed... I've cleaned up my A1200 and even bought a new keyboard for it (the original one was showing its age - 13 years!). Any news?
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what about power Vixxen ? any news?
The last thing we heard was that Adam announced (http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3047&start=20#38605) that there will be some news released during the evening of 23 April 2006.
He didn't meat this "deadline", although it even was on the same day. :roll:
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Meh, deadlines.
They should either stick to them, or else call them "passed out lines", "just resting my eyes lines" or "I don't feel so good, I think I'm going to lie down for a bit lines"
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I don't get the reason for announcing an announcement anyway...
Either you have something to present, then please do so and provide us with the details, otherwise please remain silent and do your homework.
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I've cleaned up my A1200 and even bought a new keyboard for it (the original one was showing its age - 13 years!). Any news?
Looks like even the board layout of the Powervixxen is not decided yet:
link to AW post (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=19032&forum=33&start=40&viewmode=flat&order=0#294204)
Wasn't the Powervixxen already said to be in production? :roll:
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Wasn't the Powervixxen already said to be in production?
OoHH, yes!!! in fantasy world :pissed:
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What happened, it all sounded so real - I could almost taste it! :)
Anyone heard any news on this? I'd definitely buy one if it were ever released.
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It's nice, the way this thread suddenly sours.
Just relax, sit back and wait. Producing a real world product doesnt just happen.
I notice from all the posts here only one or two people bother to address the CPU connector sourcing issue.
Any idea how hard it is to find stock of a proprietary connector more than 10 years after initial production? Maybe if every potential buyer did just one hours research into this problem, you could help the guy out and speed the progress along?
Just an observation...
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i thought i heard he now had many sources for the connecters and that was no longer an issue???
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He found another source and it is no longer an issue. He mentioned here (http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3112) that he's working on a new high-end board. It will use the same CPU connector as the AmigaOne XE and MicroA1-c so that anybody who upgrades their A1 can continue to use their same CPU upgrade boards in the new motherboard.
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Very interesting product. Thanks to someone for the Google link on it!
I'd be interested in one. (Assuming I have an A1200 by then.)
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I'm very interested. as long as Amiga OS 4 or Morph OS is able to run on it.
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I would want a standalone too.
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This product will never be shipped. Another case of vaporware.
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@ferrellsl
This product will never be shipped. Another case of vaporware.
It seems you were right. Jens Schoenfeld's story (http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3721&start=120#49906) about his dealings with ACK.
How will Adam be able to get the connectors without Jens?
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Yes....the project is late.....yes I haven't been able to source the connectors. I'm asking for anyone who has a line on a source of the A1200 CPU female connector to e-mail me at a.kowalczyk@sympatico.ca. Similarly, please email me if you intend to purchase a PowerVixxen LT for your A1200 as I need to know an approximate quantity if/when I get a manufacturer to make them.
Sincerely,
Adam Kowalczyk
ACK Software Controls, Inc.
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?67421-Group-buy-A1200-Expansion-slot-connector
Maybe will share PowerVixxen LT documentation what already done?
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http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?67421-Group-buy-A1200-Expansion-slot-connector
Maybe will share PowerVixxen LT documentation what already done?
Pretty sure the ACK boards were trollware from day one, thus no documentation. :-) IIRC the idea was a re-hash of the AmiJoe.