eslapion is a Ok guy, I know he is quite knowledgeable about 8 bit things as I am on a Vic forum. I suspect he is just not as knowledgeable about the 4000. The guy probably told him there was a 8mb simm in the chip ram slot and he assumed there was 8mb chip. I use 8mb simms as 2mb are getting hard to find. I say cut him a little slack, but I would still like to see a picture of the desktop to be certain the 4000 powers up and works.