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Title: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 07, 2015, 09:47:24 PM
Hello!

I'd like to get back into Amiga gaming, and would love to purchase an amiga 1200. I grew up playing the 500, but i have been told the 1200 would be more ideal...anyway...let me know what you have! I am located in Los Angeles, CA.

Thanks !
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 07, 2015, 10:16:45 PM
Pop an ad on Amibay in the Wanted section as well (mention US sellers); some descent folks will look there if they have something to sell.  In the Wanted Section it is permissible to post a target range you are willing to pay and this will help a huge amount.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 08, 2015, 05:00:02 AM
Thank you Dan!

I applied for membership and will post once i get accepted!

fingers crossed.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 08, 2015, 05:56:38 AM
I no longer refurb A1200's or A3000's due to the associated problems with them, preferring A4000D/T's, but good luck on your search.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: nicholas.jj.taylor on January 08, 2015, 06:10:30 PM
Be sure to also check english amiga board and the classifieds on here. Tread carefully in Amibay. When you're advised to read the rules, you are advised to actually and carefully read the rules.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 08, 2015, 07:51:00 PM
Most Amibay users are in Europe.  While that's not necessarily a bad thing, just something to be aware of when considering power supplies, shipping, and if you care about whether the machine is PAL or NTSC by default, etc.  And yes, read those forum rules, they can be a bit of sticklers for them over there!  ;)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 08, 2015, 09:43:08 PM
If, as I suggested, you mention US sellers only, you will avoid those Euro-peeing types.

Amibay is all about rules, rules, rules (and they hate Americans).:hammer:
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: giZmo350 on January 08, 2015, 10:45:03 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;781275
Amibay is all about rules, rules, rules (and they hate Americans).:hammer:

Why is that Captain Ron?:confused:
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 08, 2015, 11:15:06 PM
Yup, Martin Short!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: giZmo350 on January 08, 2015, 11:28:12 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;781281
Yup, Martin Short!

Lemme ask again... Why is that Captain Dan?
Answer my question.

BTW, he's Kurt Russell....
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 08, 2015, 11:40:04 PM
Captain Ron... Captain Dan... it's only a matter of time before this guy makes an appearance!  ;)

(http://317am.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/gregory-peck-as-ahab-2.jpg)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: giZmo350 on January 09, 2015, 12:04:59 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;781287
Captain Ron... Captain Dan... it's only a matter of time before this guy makes an appearance!  ;)

(http://317am.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/gregory-peck-as-ahab-2.jpg)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! EXCELLENT!

(http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/screenshots/bill_and_teds_excellent_adventure_5.jpg)

Or all of these guys!

(http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/screenshots/bill_and_teds_excellent_adventure_32.jpg)

Answer the question Dan!

(http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/screenshots/bill_and_teds_excellent_adventure_7.jpg)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 09, 2015, 12:48:56 AM
Someone is a Bill & Ted fan, and I don't use four letter words in the forums when asked to explain cross site attacks.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 09, 2015, 12:52:31 AM
I just realized my picture of Captain Ahab looks surprisingly like Abraham Lincoln. ;)

Hopefully all these bumps to the thread help the OP find an A1200 quickly! :D  I don't see a single one listed on ebay currently anywhere in the US, although there is this wacky system down in Australia that shows up when I search:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-1200-custom-ACA1220-25Mhz-130Mb-RAM-DVDROM-FastATA-Subway-USB-Indivision-/271734339002?pt=AU_Computers_Vintage&hash=item3f44a0f5ba
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: giZmo350 on January 09, 2015, 01:27:19 AM
Quote from: danbeaver;781300
Someone is a Bill & Ted fan,

Meh... They're alright....

Quote from: danbeaver;781300
and I don't use four letter words in the forums when asked to explain cross site attacks.

I don't even know what this means.... but this is the second time I've read this sentence on an Amiga website (from you?). Ehhh... doesn't matter...

I'm just a a little bugged... How would you like to see, on a Miggy site that states, "...and they hate "your country"?

Sorry to the guy looking for an A1200! Sheeesh!

Anyways....   It's 2015! Let's get this party started... Let's get this party started! (Ya'll know the tune!)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 09, 2015, 03:53:45 AM
Ha!

you guys are funny!

I indeed read the rules and posted there also...fingers crossed!

Thank you all for your advices!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 09, 2015, 04:10:10 AM
If you posted under FE, then you will get more responses by adding, "Looking to spend in the $200 USD range."  This does not violate their notion of price fixing or price gouging or price pricing, etc.

Mind you, I pick $200 out of thin air.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Damion on January 09, 2015, 04:47:47 AM
I would imagine danbeaver's comments are intended to be tongue-in-cheek. I've used Amibay numerous times, my "nationality" has never been an issue. In fact, due to this hobby I've met some quite friendly folks all over the world. The rules are simple enough, IMO.

The few disappointments I've encountered had nothing to do with the site, and are the same kinds of things you might deal with on ebay or anywhere else: The hardware is getting really old now - caveat emptor.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: QuikSanz on January 09, 2015, 05:06:23 AM
@amiga76,

The 1200 can be a good machine. Amiga is an addiction, welcome back!

Chris
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 09, 2015, 05:11:51 AM
yup that's me: they wouldn't let me register with this username, so i picked my favorite character from Maniac Mansion :)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 09, 2015, 05:14:30 AM
Quote from: QuikSanz;781312
@amiga76,

The 1200 can be a good machine. Amiga is an addiction, welcome back!

Chris


thanks Chris!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: giZmo350 on January 09, 2015, 05:32:17 AM
Quote from: amiga76;781314
thanks Chris!

Hell Yea! Welcome back amiga76!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 09, 2015, 07:23:35 AM
Quote from: amiga76;781313
yup that's me: they wouldn't let me register with this username, so i picked my favorite character from Maniac Mansion :)
I'm guessing Amiga1 through Amiga76 and beyond were taken; I'd like to try: EatItRawFuzzNuts myself, but I'm already registered.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 09, 2015, 07:30:56 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;781306
Mind you, I pick $200 out of thin air.

Man, we are all in the wrong line of work!  Your company hiring, @danbeaver?  ;)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 09, 2015, 08:41:20 PM
Actually they are frantically hiring people, but you would have to move here.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 10, 2015, 04:58:17 AM
what do you guys think about this missed opportunity on ebay?

worth investigating ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-A1200-Amiga-with-A1230-Turbo-and-HD-with-original-paper-work-NICE-/271727617140?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813124757%26meid%3D903c4d561f7b4176b24dc1cab7200d56%26pid%3D100259%26prg%3D20140813124757%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D271731855902%26clkid%3D3248635292768919457&_qi=RTM1963932&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=yjnto%252F0H5uJCAmDXMiL2FuYO83k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 10, 2015, 06:31:09 AM
Quote from: amiga76;781369
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-A1200-Amiga-with-A1230-Turbo-and-HD-with-original-paper-work-NICE-/271727617140?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813124757%26meid%3D903c4d561f7b4176b24dc1cab7200d56%26pid%3D100259%26prg%3D20140813124757%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D271731855902%26clkid%3D3248635292768919457&_qi=RTM1963932&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=yjnto%252F0H5uJCAmDXMiL2FuYO83k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Dang, they sure don't go for cheap these days!  :(

IMHO the A1200 is great if you just want something for playing games, as there's a lot of AGA-only content out there.  Also the faster chipset is nice just for tinkering around with Workbench (since you can pretty much forget about getting a graphics card for one unless you plan on taking out a second home mortgage).  But if you just want something to feed your Amiga fix, there's plenty of A2000's out there starting at less than half that, as well as A500's, I even saw an A600 and a CDTV on ebay going for less than that, a few minutes ago.

Personally I love my A2000's.  Easy to expand and tinker on, I fire up my main one almost every day just to "get my fix".  Still, if you've got the cash and don't mind scouring the net a bit, an A1200 with replaced caps, a CF adapter, one of the ACA accelerators, and an Indivision AGA (with the Kipper2K HDMI adapter if you're into that sort of thing) will give you a nice, compact, fairly "modern" and "bulletproof" system to play around with.

Good luck!  :)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 10, 2015, 07:27:05 AM
Well if you are considering an accelerated A1200 for $565 (this isn't Amibay), what about a refurbished A4000D for $600?  It is fully working, (except for the clock) with 68040, 16+2 MB RAM, Retr0brited plastics, newly enameled case, DD floppy, 3.1 ROMs, new keylock, and CD-RW drive.  Rebuilt with PSU 600W dual voltage, too.

Just offering...
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 10, 2015, 09:16:24 AM
Quote from: danbeaver;781376
Well if you are considering an accelerated A1200 for $565 (this isn't Amibay), what about a refurbished A4000D for $600?  It is fully working, (except for the clock) with 68040, 16+2 MB RAM, Retr0brited plastics, newly enameled case, DD floppy, 3.1 ROMs, new keylock, and CD-RW drive.  Rebuilt with PSU 600W dual voltage, too.

Just offering...


Check your PMs !
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 10, 2015, 10:33:23 AM
Check yours!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 10, 2015, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;781371
Dang, they sure don't go for cheap these days!  :(

IMHO the A1200 is great if you just want something for playing games, as there's a lot of AGA-only content out there.  Also the faster chipset is nice just for tinkering around with Workbench (since you can pretty much forget about getting a graphics card for one unless you plan on taking out a second home mortgage).  But if you just want something to feed your Amiga fix, there's plenty of A2000's out there starting at less than half that, as well as A500's, I even saw an A600 and a CDTV on ebay going for less than that, a few minutes ago.

Personally I love my A2000's.  Easy to expand and tinker on, I fire up my main one almost every day just to "get my fix".  Still, if you've got the cash and don't mind scouring the net a bit, an A1200 with replaced caps, a CF adapter, one of the ACA accelerators, and an Indivision AGA (with the Kipper2K HDMI adapter if you're into that sort of thing) will give you a nice, compact, fairly "modern" and "bulletproof" system to play around with.

Good luck!  :)


Thank you Mike...what you're saying makes total sense. I am still looking: it's always like that...you get in it thinking you know what you want and then there are so many options that it gets hard to make up your mind....add the fact that some of these are harder and more expensive to find in the US and i think it might take a bit longer than expected to make a decision.

That said, to me the search is half the fun :laugh1:
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: c64man on January 11, 2015, 12:34:27 AM
Quote from: amiga76;781445
Thank you Mike...what you're saying makes total sense. I am still looking: it's always like that...you get in it thinking you know what you want and then there are so many options that it gets hard to make up your mind....add the fact that some of these are harder and more expensive to find in the US and i think it might take a bit longer than expected to make a decision.

That said, to me the search is half the fun :laugh1:


They are hard to find,  I just built another one,   Ive got one that needs a home.  

its an A1200
Has the following upgrades

ACA 1233 Accelerator with 128MB RAM
3.1 ROMS
8GB CF Card with ClassicWB 3.1 Installed
Ethernet Card

It has one missing key that isnt used on the US keyboard layout
A 1084S monitor comes iwth it but its pretty rough,  needs some love

Im asking 500 dollars for it.   And I just put it in my Square Store

All the pics are listed up on the Square Listing
https://squareup.com/market/d-uae/commodore-amiga-system
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 11, 2015, 01:17:51 AM
I would do the $500 but add the following from Amigakit:

New Keyboard http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=49_89&products_id=336 $38.43

RGB to VGA adapter
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=183 $13.68 (my preference)

Full set of New 3.1 Install disks http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=1211 $17.18

Cable to allow an IDE CD Drive
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_67&products_id=608  starting at $8.38 -- ask to make a modified one so the last fits a CD Drive
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 11, 2015, 01:31:04 AM
Then, If it were me, I'd also add in:

SCART Cable http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_72&products_id=226 $13.73

And via the forum threads either a:
SCART to Component http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SCART-RGB-to-YUV-Component-Video-Converter-Scaler-/221156873851?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337dfa167b $48.95

SCART to HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-to-HDMI-720P-1080P-HD-Video-Converter-Monitor-Box-For-HDTV-DVD-STB-/400741908951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d4e1441d7 $43.95

[Or FrameMeister http://solarisjapan.com/products/xrgb-mini-framemeister-compact-up-scaler-unit $297.20]

vs 15KHz 24" Flatscreen http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-ST-ST2421L-ST2421LB-24-Widescreen-LED-LCD-Monitor-Backlight-1080p-/251775421228?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item3a9efc0b2c $139.99
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 11, 2015, 02:10:38 AM
IMHO that A4000 from @danbeaver sounds like a mighty tasty deal!  You should jump on that if you haven't already.  Hell, I might be interested if I didn't already have way more projects than I have time.  :(  I'll probably look for one in a year or two, at which point they'll have doubled in price again, lol.  ;)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: mechy on January 11, 2015, 02:42:07 AM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;781452
IMHO that A4000 from @danbeaver sounds like a mighty tasty deal!  You should jump on that if you haven't already.  Hell, I might be interested if I didn't already have way more projects than I have time.  :(  I'll probably look for one in a year or two, at which point they'll have doubled in price again, lol.  ;)

 i agree, much further ahead with the 4000! price seems fair to me too.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 11, 2015, 02:54:48 AM
Well to be fair, I was going to stiff him with a keyboard whose keys needed retr0briteing and a Cocolino based optical mouse for another $50, and shipping for for both the Amiga and Keyboard would run $60 USD.  

So for just plain ole' retro gaming I suggested a back track to the original post for an A1200.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 11, 2015, 02:58:30 AM
Sadly for me, I saw one of the Dell's ST2420 monitors on icBay for $70 plus $20 shipping and bought it with a $19 sound bar in between scribbling the posts above.  At 1920 X 1080 and syncing to 15kHz they really produce a nice picture in a small form factor.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 11, 2015, 08:48:12 AM
Quote from: danbeaver;781456
Sadly for me, I saw one of the Dell's ST2420 monitors on icBay for $70 plus $20 shipping and bought it with a $19 sound bar in between scribbling the posts above.  At 1920 X 1080 and syncing to 15kHz they really produce a nice picture in a small form factor.

Ha, so no sale on the A4K?  I'll probably be hitting you up in a couple years, lol.  ;)

On the monitor front, I always preferred 4:3 for my Amigas.  Got one of these on it's way to me now, for testing  :)

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dell.com%2Fdownloads%2Femea%2Fproducts%2Fsnp%2FUltraSharp%25202007FP_EN.pdf&ei=WTiyVKnqFIHnsAScx4DgDA&usg=AFQjCNH53XEU--57HSAxoYzeBz2akI3hbQ&sig2=iLQzUgeuP-bvMG7WUiqtnw&bvm=bv.83339334,d.cWc (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dell.com%2Fdownloads%2Femea%2Fproducts%2Fsnp%2FUltraSharp%25202007FP_EN.pdf&ei=WTiyVKnqFIHnsAScx4DgDA&usg=AFQjCNH53XEU--57HSAxoYzeBz2akI3hbQ&sig2=iLQzUgeuP-bvMG7WUiqtnw&bvm=bv.83339334,d.cWc)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 11, 2015, 09:56:16 AM
still haven't decided between the two to be honest...that 1200 looks rough!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 11, 2015, 01:21:51 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;781470
Ha, so no sale on the A4K?  I'll probably be hitting you up in a couple years, lol.  ;)

On the monitor front, I always preferred 4:3 for my Amigas.  Got one of these on it's way to me now, for testing  :)

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dell.com%2Fdownloads%2Femea%2Fproducts%2Fsnp%2FUltraSharp%25202007FP_EN.pdf&ei=WTiyVKnqFIHnsAScx4DgDA&usg=AFQjCNH53XEU--57HSAxoYzeBz2akI3hbQ&sig2=iLQzUgeuP-bvMG7WUiqtnw&bvm=bv.83339334,d.cWc

Won't you need a magnifying glass to view that tiny 20" monitor, and I  repurpose my monitors for use with my Roku for movies, so 4:3  lacks the "full fairyland effect."
Title: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 14, 2015, 06:53:32 AM
Still looking!

I might be interested in a 500 also if available.

All i'd be using it for is games and maybe some midi/music activity if i get to integrate it in a studio environment.....but mostly nostalgia gaming :)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 14, 2015, 12:16:21 PM
There are always a ton of A500's on eBay in various shapes; the states (USA) favored the A500 and Europe the A1200.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 14, 2015, 01:00:48 PM
In fact Amazon has a working A500 for $150
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: fordp on January 14, 2015, 02:47:09 PM
I have an A500, Rev5 mobo, ROM 1.3 (or ROM1.2 if you prefer), A501, 1MB Agnus, in a box, waiting on a sale that didn't happen. I could part with it, PM me if you're interested.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: fordp on January 14, 2015, 02:49:08 PM
Quote from: danbeaver;781701
In fact Amazon has a working A500 for $150


   Q: If you are selling an Amiga 500, then why is the picture of a 2000HD model?
A: This is your only question? I'd also be asking why the OS is "Macintosh"


Gave me a chuckle.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: sm3 on January 14, 2015, 03:36:22 PM
Quote from: amiga76;781681
Still looking!

I might be interested in a 500 also if available.

All i'd be using it for is games and maybe some midi/music activity if i get to integrate it in a studio environment.....but mostly nostalgia gaming :)

Remember, if you get an Amiga 500 and decide you want to use an ACA500 later, it only works with Rev 6A and higher boards.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 14, 2015, 04:45:51 PM
Quote from: sm3;781713
Remember, if you get an Amiga 500 and decide you want to use an ACA500 later, it only works with Rev 6A and higher boards.


Thanks for the heads up, sm3!


Are you talking about this?

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1168

I do read the following at the end:

³ motherboard revision 5 or higher required. At this time, there are some unconfirmed reports of NTSC motherboards not working with ACA 500.

Would you say those reports are not quite "unconfirmed" then?
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 14, 2015, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: fordp;781704
I have an A500, Rev5 mobo, ROM 1.3 (or ROM1.2 if you prefer), A501, 1MB Agnus, in a box, waiting on a sale that didn't happen. I could part with it, PM me if you're interested.



msg sent!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 14, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: amiga76;781722
Would you say those reports are not quite "unconfirmed" then?

Google search it.   It's all over the forums.  NTSC requires 6A or higher.

There's A500's all over ebay, only downside is you probably won't be able to tell from the auction what version motherboard they have.  Probably better to get one on the forums, here, or on Amibay, where you can ask questions like that.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Lionheart on January 14, 2015, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: sm3;781713
Remember, if you get an Amiga 500 and decide you want to use an ACA500 later, it only works with Rev 6A and higher boards.

Actually, the ACA500 works in a revision 5 PAL A500.   Therefore, it should be possible to use in a rev 5 NTSC if you switch it to PAL and change Agnus to a 8371 or 8372A and disconnecting pin 41.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 14, 2015, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: Lionheart;781726
Actually, the ACA500 works in a revision 5 PAL A500.   Therefore, it should be possible to use in a rev 5 NTSC if you switch it to PAL and change Agnus to a 8371 or 8372A and disconnecting pin 41.

Yeah, because that's not a pain in the ass, or anything.  ;)  Oh well, to each their own.  ACA 500 sucks anyway, lol.  ;)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: sm3 on January 14, 2015, 07:04:15 PM
Quote from: amiga76;781722
Thanks for the heads up, sm3!


Are you talking about this?

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1168

I do read the following at the end:

³ motherboard revision 5 or higher required. At this time, there are some unconfirmed reports of NTSC motherboards not working with ACA 500.

Would you say those reports are not quite "unconfirmed" then?

  Well, it didn't work for my NTSC Rev 5 board, but after I found an NTSC 6a, it works.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: sm3 on January 14, 2015, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;781727
...  ACA 500 sucks anyway, lol.
 I don't know if it sucks, for the price, it's not a bad upgrade. Better than messing with one of those old hard drives in my opinion.   I use mine to burn real floppies from ADFs and also use it as boot environment for my Workbench 1.3.  I'm going to spring for an ACA1233 soon to plug-in to the ACA500. I think that will work better for WHDLoad and then I can also plug it into my A1200 ;)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on January 14, 2015, 07:40:56 PM
Quote from: sm3;781729
I don't know if it sucks, for the price, it's not a bad upgrade. Better than messing with one of those old hard drives in my opinion. I use mine to burn real floppies from ADFs and also use it as boot environment for my Workbench 1.3. I'm going to spring for an ACA1233 soon to plug-in to the ACA500. I think that will work better for WHDLoad and then I can also plug it into my A1200 ;)

I don't use ADF's, floppies, or 1.3.  So I'm probably not the target market.  Also I think it's ugly and under-powered, and should have been internal.  I'm also just old and cranky and haven't had enough coffee yet today, lol.  ;)
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 14, 2015, 08:45:17 PM
Well, if he is going for a retro gaming experience, the ACA500 is not needed.


Mike, It is 6:47 am here in GU, and I am on my first cup of caffeine of the morning
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: mbrantley on January 14, 2015, 09:58:23 PM
If you want another confirmation, I am another unfortunate soul with an ACA500 sitting unused because my A500 is Rev 5 NTSC and the two do not like each other. On the lookout for a Rev 6 board or a whole A500 that is Rev 6 NTSC.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 14, 2015, 10:41:30 PM
Thank you all for the information!

I guess i shouldn't be too concerned. As i said i ill be using it mostly for gaming, but having the option to upgrade is always nice.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: magnetic on January 14, 2015, 10:46:36 PM
Quote from: sm3;781728
Well, it didn't work for my NTSC Rev 5 board, but after I found an NTSC 6a, it works.


FYI guys Rev 6 a500s are pretty darn rare in the usa!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: sm3 on January 14, 2015, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: mbrantley;781738
... On the lookout for a Rev 6 board or a whole A500 that is Rev 6 NTSC.

 The Rev 6a boards are plentiful if you are willing to purchase them from Germany or the UK. Of course they will be PAL, but there is a jumper setting that changes it from PAL to NTSC. I have picked up several as replacements via eBay. Just expand the search to "worldwide". I wanted mine mainly as a source of spare parts.

I forgot to add that if you have an Indivision ECS scandoubler from Amigakit, it probably doesn't matter if your Rev 6a is PAL or NTSC:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=82&products_id=918
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: sm3 on January 14, 2015, 11:04:34 PM
Quote from: amiga76;781740
Thank you all for the information!

I guess i shouldn't be too concerned. As i said i ill be using it mostly for gaming, but having the option to upgrade is always nice.

amiga76, are you only going to use original floppies to play games? I'm not sure how everyone else with a 500 does it, but the main reason I purchased the ACA500 was to transfer games/software from my PC to real floppies on my 500. There are 2 CF card slots on the ACA500. One I use (left) for the FAT (PC) CF card and the right side is my boot card (wb 1.3 or 3.1). From wb3.1 I use EasyADF and burn the ADF to a floppy.

FYI
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: fordp on January 14, 2015, 11:16:36 PM
Quote from: amiga76;781740
Thank you all for the information!

I guess i shouldn't be too concerned. As i said i ill be using it mostly for gaming, but having the option to upgrade is always nice.


A heads up, the machine I mentioned (see you PM) is a Rev5 NTSC.  If you are considering an ACA500 at all, it is probably not the best choice for you.

Quote from: magnetic;781741
FYI guys Rev 6 a500s are pretty darn rare in the usa!


No kidding, I've been, perhaps to passively, trying to source a Rev6, or better a Rev8 (A500+) for a year or so, and either miss them, or watch the prices sky-rocket beyond reason. Someday, perhaps, or give in and pay shipping from europe. One or the other.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: magnetic on January 14, 2015, 11:22:24 PM
Quote from: fordp;781744
A heads up, the machine I mentioned (see you PM) is a Rev5 NTSC.  If you are considering an ACA500 at all, it is probably not the best choice for you.



No kidding, I've been, perhaps to passively, trying to source a Rev6, or better a Rev8 (A500+) for a year or so, and either miss them, or watch the prices sky-rocket beyond reason. Someday, perhaps, or give in and pay shipping from europe. One or the other.


Id have to say you are NOT going to find an A500+ in the usa they are very rare and with the Hoarders that abound its gonna be a tough one unless you are willing to pay!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 14, 2015, 11:25:46 PM
Quote from: sm3;781743
amiga76, are you only going to use original floppies to play games? I'm not sure how everyone else with a 500 does it, but the main reason I purchased the ACA500 was to transfer games/software from my PC to real floppies on my 500. There are 2 CF card slots on the ACA500. One I use (left) for the FAT (PC) CF card and the right side is my boot card (wb 1.3 or 3.1). From wb3.1 I use EasyADF and burn the ADF to a floppy.

FYI


The answer would be no: i'd love to have a similar solution to my Commodore 64 which has an SD card reader and interface to load roms/backups of my floppies
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: sm3 on January 15, 2015, 01:48:44 AM
Rev 6a boards are out there, you have to get them from the UK or Germany though.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201263697432

PAL but you can either 1) keep it PAL with a compatible monitor
                               2) set jumper to be NTSC
                               3) get Indivision scan doubler
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: midway on January 15, 2015, 03:58:41 AM
If you are looking into gaming the 1200 is best. Petro Tyschtschenko sold a few NOS 1200s. I got one and it runs great. I also had 4000D s but beware of cap leaks battery leaks and distorted sound. If you get a 1200 make sure you recap it, same goes for a 4000. 500 and 2000s dont need recapping mostly. I have a spare A2000 if you are interested. Send me a PM.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: RobertB on January 15, 2015, 04:54:42 AM
Quote from: amiga76;781746
i'd love to have a similar solution to my Commodore 64 which has an SD card reader and interface to load roms/backups of my floppies

D64it for the C64 works perfectly with a SD2IEC or uIEC to convert .d64s to floppies and vice versa.  http://www.kludgesoft.com/c64/d64it.html

FCUG celebrating 33 years,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm

P.S. There are also D128it (for the Commodore 128), D64it for the VIC-20, and D64it for the Plus/4.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 16, 2015, 07:58:30 AM
Quote from: midway;781756
If you are looking into gaming the 1200 is best. Petro Tyschtschenko sold a few NOS 1200s. I got one and it runs great. I also had 4000D s but beware of cap leaks battery leaks and distorted sound. If you get a 1200 make sure you recap it, same goes for a 4000. 500 and 2000s dont need recapping mostly. I have a spare A2000 if you are interested. Send me a PM.



Thanks for the heads up...still undecided and waiting to hear back from a few forum members regarding 500 and 1200.

My only concern with the 2000 is that is a big ass computer and i don't know if i have the space!
Title: Chameleon 64?
Post by: amiga76 on January 16, 2015, 10:31:02 PM
Odd question, but i was just reading about the Chameleon 64 and its ability to emulate Amiga....since i have a C64 already, would it be sacrilegious to get a Chameleon 64 to emulate the amiga through the same monitor i run the C64 in, using the same joystick?

It might also allow to save some space...

just asking for opinions obviously:)
Title: Re: Chameleon 64?
Post by: danbeaver on January 16, 2015, 11:45:51 PM
Quote from: amiga76;781857
Odd question, but i was just reading about the Chameleon 64 and its ability to emulate Amiga....since i have a C64 already, would it be sacrilegious to get a Chameleon 64 to emulate the amiga through the same monitor i run the C64 in, using the same joystick?

It might also allow to save some space...

just asking for opinions obviously:)

Yes that is what it does, provided you connect to a VGA monitor.  The Chameleon can act as a Super Cartridge (many different functions) for the C64 or as a stand alone FPGA computer emulator able to store multiple different "Cores" of computers in memory: the C64 and Amiga being most relevant to this thread.  You need a Chameleon and the docking station for full functionality; power and core downloads through USB (from a PC) or USB power brick and +/- PS/2, (Amiga or C64) keyboard.  The docking station allows use of C64/Amiga joysticks
Title: Re: Chameleon 64?
Post by: sm3 on January 17, 2015, 12:17:56 AM
Quote from: amiga76;781857
Odd question, but i was just reading about the Chameleon 64 and its ability to emulate Amiga....since i have a C64 already, would it be sacrilegious to get a Chameleon 64 to emulate the amiga through the same monitor i run the C64 in, using the same joystick?

It might also allow to save some space...

just asking for opinions obviously:)

I suppose it depends on you and what you want to do. I personally enjoy using a real Amiga 500, slow floppies and all!

I have a Turbo Chameleon 64 with all the options and have only recently started with the Amiga.
Title: Re: Chameleon 64?
Post by: sm3 on January 17, 2015, 12:24:04 AM
Quote from: amiga76;781857
Odd question, but i was just reading about the Chameleon 64 and its ability to emulate Amiga....since i have a C64 already, would it be sacrilegious to get a Chameleon 64 to emulate the amiga through the same monitor i run the C64 in, using the same joystick?

It might also allow to save some space...

just asking for opinions obviously:)

I suppose it depends on you. If all you want to do is play some Amiga games, you could probably just get WinUAE or AmigaForever, but if you really want to experience the Amiga like people did back in the late 80's or 90's I guess, you can't beat the real thing.

I personally enjoy using the real Amiga 500, even the slow floppies. I also have the TC 64 and use it with my Commodore 64 mostly, even though I did try out the Amiga 500 core once to see how it worked. It's a great device. It will even run an Atari 800 now.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 17, 2015, 04:46:24 AM
Thank you for the info, and i agree: it was mostly curiosity that led me to inquire...i am definitely looking forward to hearing back from the few members who offered to sell their 1200 or 500...i've got the itch!!!!!
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 17, 2015, 05:26:20 AM
Your Avatar is that of an ENT (Otolaryngologist) and with that kind of income, your Avatar should be able to buy any vintage computer system.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 17, 2015, 05:47:30 AM
my avatar is not what it seems like...


http://www.giantbomb.com/dr-fred-edison/3005-907/
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on January 17, 2015, 10:32:27 PM
Funny, it still says he is a doctor.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on February 08, 2015, 04:50:36 AM
Still looking!

A
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: QuikSanz on February 08, 2015, 05:01:40 AM
An A2000 is probably easiest to find out here and plenty of Zorro cards around.

Chris
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on February 08, 2015, 06:41:47 AM
As are a huge number of A500's.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: puffy5 on February 08, 2015, 07:40:54 AM
amiga76,

 If you're still looking, I have a A1200 along with the following; A4000T, some beat up A2000, A2500, A3000 and some A500's. I'm in Portland, Oregon. I've been meaning to Ebay this stuff but am lazy.

 I was given hardware, monitors and software from our club after it was disbanded. The items sat in someone's garage for several years till they got tired of storing them. I was send an email saying "Come and get em, if you want or else they're going to Goodwill." It took several trips in my car to take everything home. I had grand ideas of using them and getting back into the Amiga but that never happened. Stuff just sits on shelves waiting for me to put them for sale on ebay.

 Have some Amiga posters also. Can provide photos for if desired. PM if interested

Cheers,
Bill
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: DirtDevil on February 08, 2015, 08:30:32 AM
Hi Puffy5,
 
 I feel amiga76's pain, been looking a long time to get back into the Amiga scene.  So PMJI, but if amiga76 isn't interested, is it possible to get in line for some of your items?
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: puffy5 on February 08, 2015, 09:26:03 PM
Sure, I'm willing to discuss possible sales to all interested. I'd just like to give amiga76 a chance first since it was his message I first saw.

Cheers,
Bill
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: danbeaver on February 08, 2015, 09:32:09 PM
As well you should.

Be careful when you polish that banana.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 10, 2016, 03:17:05 PM
It's been a while....but i ams till looking, so please get in touch if you have a 1200 for sale.


Thanks!

A
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: QuikSanz on January 10, 2016, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: DirtDevil;783300
Hi Puffy5,
 
 I feel amiga76's pain, been looking a long time to get back into the Amiga scene.  So PMJI, but if amiga76 isn't interested, is it possible to get in line for some of your items?


I bet the 4000t is already gone...............
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: bomrat on January 10, 2016, 04:16:55 PM
i, understand the Amiga 1200 us dilemma.  I picked up a uk version.  i have the us power supply, i am running a pretty basic setup right now, i have the indivision mk2 installed and have it displaying pal to my sun 21" monitor. so far it works.. there are mods to make the 1200 work ntsc.  with some circuitry changing. or you can have pseudo ntsc by some mouse combo i believe.

dont' be afraid to get the uk version.
i am getting a keyboard adaptor soon so i can run a modern keyboard.
Title: Re: WTB: Amiga 1200/other in the US.
Post by: amiga76 on January 10, 2016, 04:31:57 PM
i agree, but UK ones are expensive to ship over here...i'll take what i can find obviously, as long as it's not at eBay prices!