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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: amigamad on January 08, 2004, 03:25:56 PM
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This item is not mine it is on www.amibench.com in the uk (http://www.amibench.com/cgi-bin/view.pl?type=sale&country=UK)
For Sale :Phase 5 Blizzard PPC Card,240mhz + 060 50 + scsi lead.and blizzard vision Gfx card and cable.256mb on board.comes with power pc cd rom,manual its box it came with.
excellent condition 100% working.
260 quid or nearest best offer gets and this includes p&p,selling due to putting money towards an A1 amiga.
www.amibench.com in the uk (http://www.amibench.com/cgi-bin/view.pl?type=sale&country=UK)
This is not my item . :-)
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Nice avatar! :-) :-o
(Good price for the board, too - but not quite as nice! Hehehe!)
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Is this for an A1200 or big box Amiga??? :-? :huh: (excuse my ignorance :nervous: )
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mikey2001 wrote:
Is this for an A1200 or big box Amiga??? :-? :huh: (excuse my ignorance :nervous: )
An A1200, and looks a bit steep to me :-/
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Blizzards are for the a1200. ppc cards for the big box amigas are cyberstorms so this is for the a1200 only . :-)
An A1200, and looks a bit steep to me
last 240 ppc with 060 on ebay sold for well over 360 pound without the graphics card and the full 256meg memory so it seems ok to me. I have 2 ppc cards 1 in my a1200 tower and one that will soon be fitted with my mediator in power tower.Im not buying anmore classic amigas now i have lots to keep me busy.
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the price is about right i think... your looking at £150 for the PPC card, £60 for the Bvision and £25 for each simm... seems a fair price..
Thing you have to remember is 060 PPC cards dont hit the market that often, and when the do they get swipped up rapidly, if I had the money I would of gone for this card by now... shame I dont :-(
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This was a FRAUD. two people from here PAID to t his guy for the same board... :-(
It was too good t obe true it seems...
We're on claim process with paypal
Dragster
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I thought that the worst possible type of a sale in the Amiga world would be getting items which don't work.
This is far worse. :-(
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You can see the "FRAUD on amibench" thread here:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14208&forum=1#193412
x56h34 and me paid for this board... what a shame to see and be part of this in the amiga community :-(
Dragster
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Whats also strange is AFAIK, London isn't in Essex (as on the seller's profile on the left of the screen). :huh: :-x
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I contacted the seller myself. But I was not willing to send him a cheque, so I asked if I could come and collect in person. He said his dad was unwell and that he wasn't at home so I couldn't, he said that when he received the cheque he would send the goods. I decided against. I even offered my sympathy and wished his father well....
Geez!
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Geez... Well, we will take LEGAL ACTION against him if he does not refund the money...
Dragster
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@ Dragster and x3454354456
I bid on and paid through PayPal )over 300UKP) for a laptop last year and never received it. I found PayPal themselves to be quite useless, however my credit card company pursued that matter for me once I had provided them with all the correspondence etc. I suggest that you save a copy of the Amibench webpage as well. It took me a while, but the credit card company (and not the seller) refunded my money. I wish you luck with all this, and I'm sorry it has happened. I know the stress involved, and the loss of faith in human nature that results, believe me.
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@Cyberus
Thanks for the suggestion. I will keep a copy of the page (a screenshot should do??). I've never experienced this before and I expect paypal to do something about it. I doubt my bank refunds me anything...
I have emails, bad quality photos of the board, but I don't think that's enough proof for the bank..
:-(
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JESUS almighty , i have no words...
what kind of an ####ING LAME PISSANT TURD ASS #### ####ER would scam like this....AAAAARGH i feel with you guys and i hope this will be resolved pretty FAST!.
good luck and keep us posted..
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@ Dragster
Yeah, I suppose a screenshot will be okay. You can also select 'save page' from the File menu of your browser (although I don't know if you can do this with Amiga browsers, I use Firebird). By the way, have you contacted Mark or the Amibench team?
What is important (at least by English law) is to actually have proof that the seller promised to send the goods AFAIK. So an email from the seller saying something like "I will ship the goods when I receive payment" is perfect for this, although I sent my credit card company ALL correspondence when the same thing happened to me last year.
All the best
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@Lempkee
Thanks for your support. I hope this issue gets solved soon.. we will keep you posted, and guys, frauds like this are real and happen in the amiga world... take care who you buy from and make sure things you're buying do really exist, try to get as much proof as possible and never, ever send payments to hotmail (or such) emails. I hope our experience and lose does something good for the whole amiga community.
regards,
Dragster
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As I said to x34etc, if PayPal can't help you, your credit card company almost certainly will. Its nice to have the big guys in your side - they gave me back 300 pounds for some goods not recveived.
All the best, and good luck!
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@Cyberus
I wonder if the same applies with debit cards... :-(
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lempkee wrote:
what kind of an ####ING LAME PISSANT TURD ASS #### ####ER would scam like this....AAAAARGH i feel with you guys and i hope this will be resolved pretty FAST!.
good luck and keep us posted..
See, this is why I'm glad I'm an American. if this dude had done this to me or someone in my users group, we'd bee doing a raod trip to have a blanket party with this dude....
Who ever he is, remove "Bill the Gates" below and insert name there.....
PS- FYI BLANKET PARTY = one person is put and held in a blanket orbig sheet while several others beat on him with variuos objects.
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Maybe Cyberus could do a one man blanket party for Dragster and me? ;-)
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pay me rail fair and I will go see the guy in person...
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We believe he is in the UK, but we don't really know.
He could be anywhere... paypal accounts and hotmail email addresses can be obtained in many countries so... he could be laughing at us in another country already...
:-(
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i will pay RYU for this if you guys post the FRAUD'rs name and address here (u can cut of bits of it though) and his email.
as i for one DONT WANT to shop from this guy in the future no matter what...
let me know..
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didnt u check if his ADDRESS in paypal was registered? , anyway if he used someone else's paypal account then the paypal owner is the person who got the problem.
i want to know the paypal account , also do a address check on it and check if its verified..
cheers
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@Ryu:
Hold that thought for now. Let's see what happens with our PayPal refunds first. Thanks for your offer though.
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@Lempkee:
It is a verified Non-US paypal address.
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hamptom_168@hotmail.com
leeann brinkley
That's the PayPal info.
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ok, never heard of this guy (thank god for that) but heh he regged (SHE) paypal with HOTMAIL?? jeesus christ all mighty.....
this just keeps getting crappier..
good luck still guuys..
any news from paypal?..
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Something has just struck me. What if it is all a misunderstanding? Maybe he was waiting on offers from many people, and Dragster and x56h34 paid up, and he has been away, or something tragic has happened, and he hasn't had the chance to reply and sort things out?
Obviously I'm not trying to defend the guy, but many people have been quick to condemn without knowing the facts....
Do you see where I'm coming from?
Regards
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Dragster has payed 3 days ago and hasn't received a reply from this guy. I've paid 6 days ago and the guy/girl replied on late Monday saying that the item would be shipped on Tuesday.
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@Lempkee
Thanks mate. We don't have the real address of this guy, maybe paypal does. We only have his/her paypal information as xf said before and that's all we know. We don't really know if he's in the UK or any other place. Paypal takes sometime to investigate (30 days), until then we don't know anything... I'd like to believe he's unable to reply emails or whatever, but the fact is that he got money from 2 different persons for the same board, nothing justifies that and it's as simple as he committed fraud! xf told me he emailed yesterday... I've emailing the guy since monday and no reply yet. So.. he must have seenmy emails and has not bothered to reply... sadly you can register onpaypal with any email account, even hotmail's... :-(
Regards,
Dragster
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When you are dealing with an item this expensive, as a seller you absolutely MUST be on time with replies and everything. I've received prompt replies just until I payed. Afterwards only 1 more e-mail and that was 3 days after my payment. I am 99% sure that this is a fraud.
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This is an actual email from him:
hi there,
you were right cant do ups on saturdays,will have to be monday/tuesday.
will have to go to another post office to do this as my post office doesnt
do ups,so ill have to drive to a bigger post office in town,and sort it
there.
ill keep you posted,sorry for the delay.
thanks
graham!
and last monday he replied this:
hi mate,
tuesday lunchtime ,didnt get time got out of work late,and stuck in traffic.
dont panic it will be sorted mate,ill let you know when posted and with ups
tracking.
thanks
graham.
>From: "Rangel, Daniel"
>To: graham williams
>Subject: RE: Regarding Your AmiBench Advert
>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:50:09 -0600
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> Hi Graham... are you there???
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> What's going on?
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> Please let me know.
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> I'm waiting for the shipping information and you do not reply my
>emails... man, I don't want to start a complain on amibench.
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> Thanks
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>Daniel
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i sent money on Jan 8th. I have no email from him since last monday evening.
:-(
D.
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Hi:
I got information from Mark from amibench of the original advert from this guy.. it includes an IP address.. could anyone help to trace him with this?
Or at least try to identify the ISP?
Any ideas??
Thanks
Dragster
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yucky...
oki i agree with cyberus on this one to some point, but why would he accept the amount 2 times in a row??, paypal doesnt auto GET big payments and the person who get the money has to go and recive it manually (on the website and the move it either to her/his account and then forward it)..
all in all it might just be a mistake by the seller and i wish that this is the case but i have a very bad feeling about this so please understand my "hasty conclusions" ..
anyway good luck on this guys , and to trace an ip , use NETINFO for this..
cheers
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So last contact was 8 Jan? I'd give it more time before grabbing the torches. Although a double buyer on the same object reeks (sp?) indeed.
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PayPal requires you to submit your complain within 30 days of purchase in order to try and get the money back. After 30 days if you don't complain by then, it's bye bye money. The longer we wait the less likely it is to get the funds back. We did the right thing. Even if there was a mistake on seller's part, this is simply inexcusable to accept both of our payments.
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I also put a "bid" for this. It's just as well he didn't bother emailing me back! :-) Seriously, unlucky if people got ripped off like this, it gets very annoying. It's happened to me before. I would never blame Amibench though.