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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: on January 29, 2008, 11:52:21 PM
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A simple little cartridge the same size as the board inside Commodore made VIC-20 game cartridges. Except of course, it contains 127 games instead of only one.
Now shipping!
30$ per unit. Canadian dollars.
Shipping cost depends on your location.
Picture here (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/photos/3740.jpg)
Technical data here (http://8bitcentral.com/eslapion/behr-bonz.pdf)
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what games does it contain? and is it menu driven?
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Three questions for you -
1. postage to postal code L5A 1E3?
2. Are you offering any sort of quantity discount?
3. Do you accept Paypal?
Thanks
Ernie
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The cart is controlled by menu.
A picture of the menu has been posted and will be available in a few hours.
List of included games (please note all games were already available for free download on the internet):
AE
Aggressor
Alien Blitz
Amok!
arachnoid
Artillery Duel
Astroblitz
Atlantis
Attack of the Mutant Camels
Avenger
Bandits
Battlezone
Black Hole
Buck Rogers: Planet of Zoom
Capture the Flag
Centipede
Choplifter
Cloudburst
Clowns for Joystick
Clowns for paddle
Computer War
Congo Bongo
Cosmic Cruncher
Cosmic Jailbreak
Creepy Corridors
Crossfire
Cyclon
Defender
Demon Attack
Dig Dug
Donkey Kong
Dragonfire
Final Orbit + Bumper Bash
Frogger
Frogman
Galaxian
Garden Wars
Gorf
Gridrunner
IFR (Flight Simulator)
In the chips
Jawbreaker II
Jelly Monsters (clone of Pacman)
Jungle Hunt
Jupiter Lander
KEYQUEST
Krazy Antics
Lazerzone
Lode Runner
Lunar Leeper
Maze
Medieval Joust
Miner 2049'er
Mobile Attack
Mole Attack
Money Wars
Monster Maze
Moon Patrol
Mosquito Infestation
Motocross Racer
Mountain King
Ms Pacman
Mutant Herd
Omega Race
Outworld
Pac-Man (original)
Paratrooper
Pharaoh's Curse
Pinball
Pipes
Poker
Polaris
Pole Position
Predator
Princess and Frog
Protector
Q-Bert
Radar Rat Race
Raid on Fort Knox
Rally-X
Rat Hotel
Renaissance (Othello)
River Rescue
Road Race
Robot Panic
Robotron 2084
Scott Adams: Adventure Land
Scott Adams: Mission Impossible
Scott Adams: Pirate's Cove
Scott Adams: The Count
Scott Adams: Voodoo Castle
Sargon II Chess
Satellite Patrol
Scorpion
Sea Wolf
Seafox
Serpentine
Shamus
Sir Lancelot
Skibbereen
Skyblazer
Space Ric-O-Shay
Spider City
SPIDERS OF MARS
Spike's Peak
Spills and Fills
Squish'em
Star Battle
Star Post
Star Trek - Srategic Operations Simulator
Submarine commander
Super Amok
Super Slot
Super Smash
Terraguard
The Sky is Falling
Threshold
Tooth Invaders
Topper
Trashman
Turmoil
Tutankham
Type Attack
Typo
Video Vermin
Videomania
Visible Solar System
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Amigoat wrote:
Three questions for you -
1. postage to postal code L5A 1E3?
2. Are you offering any sort of quantity discount?
3. Do you accept Paypal?
Thanks
Ernie
Answered via PM.
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amazing wrote:
what games does it contain? and is it menu driven?
Games are listed above.
Image from menu:
(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/photos/3741.jpg)
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Is there anything similar for the C64/C128?
Cheers.
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lots of things are available on the internet for free download. five bux says that cloverfield bootlegs are available somewhere on the internet for free download.
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How much for shipping to Norway? :-)
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@eslapion
please note all games were already available for free download on the internet
They were all available with a license that allows reselling?
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Piru wrote:
@eslapion
please note all games were already available for free download on the internet
They were all available with a license that allows reselling?
I *assume* the very reasonable 30$ price is the electronics only, I doubt the maker actually charges for the games....
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At least the old llamasoft titles seem to be PD:
Many of these titles are now Public Domain, so if you have a favourite game from days gone by and are looking for more information on it or a free download for emulation, then select an era from the list below to begin browsing...
- Llamasoft softography (http://www.llamasoft.co.uk/softography.php)
I *assume* the very reasonable 30$ price is the electronics only, I doubt the maker actually charges for the games
I was just asking. The wording there is a bit vague (something being available for download on the internet is no guarantee of anything).
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Piru wrote:I was just asking. The wording there is a bit vague (something being available for download on the internet is no guarantee of anything).
It's kind of strange that there seems to be some concern over the legality of these old Vic20 games, while people seem quite pleased that the OS4 code for the Mac Mini was leaked to the internet from a stolen laptop.
It's a strange old world. ;-)
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@Darrin
people seem quite pleased that the OS4 code for the Mac Mini was leaked to the internet from a stolen laptop.
Interestingly there has been slight change (or reinterpretation) of the amiga.org posting guidelines. Apparently unless if Hyperion takes action the threads and links will stay. I have no clue of OS4 is some way special case, you'll need to ask the moderators.
Direct links to warez have gone unchecked lately, so I guess I should take that as an indication of the new policies.
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o remember the good old days..i just gonna play gridrunner on my vic-20 :P
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Cool i want one!
But i guess the games are NTSC? :/
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this is ultimately cool... I'll get one too. Is there a website like lemon64 for Vic20 where we can see screenshots of the games ?
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Piru wrote:
Apparently unless if Hyperion takes action the threads and links will stay. I have no clue of OS4 is some way special case, you'll need to ask the moderators.
Direct links to warez have gone unchecked lately, so I guess I should take that as an indication of the new policies.
It's probably a sad sign that there is so little actual retail software available now that warez are becomming a way of life.
How's MOS 2.0 for the Efica coming along? I have a board and if I had the OS to run on it then I could support some software developers on that platform?
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Darrin wrote:
Is there anything similar for the C64/C128?
Cheers.
You will be able to do a similar job with the MMC Replay when it comes out, but you will have to feed it the games yourself.
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redrumloa wrote:
You will be able to do a similar job with the MMC Replay when it comes out, but you will have to feed it the games yourself.
Cheers. That's me covered then. :-)
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Piru wrote:
Interestingly there has been slight change (or reinterpretation) of the amiga.org posting guidelines. Apparently unless if Hyperion takes action the threads and links will stay. I have no clue of OS4 is some way special case, you'll need to ask the moderators.
Direct links to warez have gone unchecked lately, so I guess I should take that as an indication of the new policies.
Wayne could clarify further, but here is my take on the current moderation policy concerning piracy.
Previously no discussion whatsoever was allowed. However this was viewed as overbearing and draconian, plus US copyright laws have become more lenient concerning so called abandonware. The new policy still enforces concerning direct promotion of viable/recently supported software and leaves other areas a little more slack.
Is there any genuine concern that it is unethical to allow this discussion?
Seriously, let me know and I will forward to Wayne. Also I have not seen any direct links to warez, if you see such a thing feel free to PM a moderator.
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redrumloa wrote:
Previously no discussion whatsoever was allowed. However this was viewed as overbearing and draconian, plus US copyright laws have become more lenient concerning so called abandonware. The new policy still enforces concerning direct promotion of viable/recently supported software and leaves other areas a little more slack.
Is there any genuine concern that it is unethical to allow this discussion?
Seriously, let me know and I will forward to Wayne. Also I have not seen any direct links to warez, if you see such a thing feel free to PM a moderator.
I have made this product only with software that was available for more than a decade for free download over the internet from various sources.
I got my ROM images from the Zimmer's commodore related web site.
All software on this cart were published prior to 1985.
I truly hope nobody thinks I charge for the software itself.
As for PAL compatibility, I can only say that "most" (but not all) games on the Behr Bonz cart are compatible with the PAL system.
They ALL work with NTSC systems.
I suggest to european buyers that they wait as I will release a fully PAL compatible version of this cart in one month or two.
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ok thats cool
can u notifie me when u have a pal version?
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countzero wrote:
this is ultimately cool... I'll get one too. Is there a website like lemon64 for Vic20 where we can see screenshots of the games ?
The vic-20 Denial forum is exclusively for VIC-20 users.
(www.sleepingelephant.com/denial)
I can't give screenshots for 127 games but you can test them yourself using the Xvic included in the VICE emulator and ROM images published on www.zimmers.net
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u need someone to test it in pal modes?
i have 3 vics 2 from us and 1 dutch
i never stood still at the pal or ntsc resolution?
should check it..
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Oh boy, I've gotta get one of these!
Do they have a cart-cover or is it a bare PCB?
I too need a PAL version and could you PM me with the cost including shipping to Melbourne, Australia?
Cheers,
Mike.
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amazing wrote:
u need someone to test it in pal modes?
i have 3 vics 2 from us and 1 dutch
i never stood still at the pal or ntsc resolution?
should check it..
If you have 127 games to recommend and know for sure work with PAL VICs, I would like you to tell me.
I previously posted the names of all games contained on the Behr Bonz. Maybe you could tell me which ones don't work well with PAL and recommend other titles as replacements.
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I am still looking for a generous soul living in the world of PAL who will recommend games for the PAL version...
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C64/128 version please :)
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Everblue wrote:
C64/128 version please :)
Nick Coplin is working on that. However, unlike VIC, C64 carts do not have a standard "presentation" from the computer's point of view. Manyare more than 16k in size and have special systems for flipping visible content.
It would be possible to limit yourself to 16k only games that contain no special hardware but I already hear all the people complaining about missing games.
My personnal favorite C64 cart is Super Zaxxon... Much better than the disk based version. I truly don't have a clue how I could make a multicart that includes this game. It has 20k of ROM stored in a weird manner that uses minimal banking.
All the large capacity carts with 256k ROMs are completely off limits considering my own abilities and they are likely to be the most requested games.
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My cart was mailed out last Wednesday, and I received it today! Hooray, the postal service is not slow for once. I will demonstrate it at this Saturday's TOGA meeting and this Sunday's FCUG meeting.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
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Hi Robert!
Good to know you got your Behr Bonz multicart.
I hope it performs to your satisfaction.
Keep us informed!
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To canadian people:
I have been asked time and time again for shipping cost by canadian people who don't give me their postal code, assuming I can get the information only with a city's name. I can't.
Here is how you calculate the shipping rate if you live in Canada:
Go to http://www.canadapost.ca/personal/tools/rc/res/bin/rc_res-e.asp and enter my postal code (originator's postal code is H1Z 3P4), your postal code, a max weight of 0.2kg and dimensions of 3 x 15 x 25 cm then hit SUBMIT. Look up the total price for Xpresspost service (I refuse to ship fragile items like that through the normal service as they get damaged too often) and add 2$.
Canada post has flat rates for shipping to the US and europe. Accordingly, I charge 9$ for the US and 10$ for europe.
For these, I use the small packet airmail service.
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I still need a volunteer to help me create a PAL version of the ROM.
Help me make a list of games for the PAL version and you'll get a free Behr Bonz cart!
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The Behr Bonz multicart for the VIC-20 now has its own web page!
Visit www.8bitcentral.com
The Ultimate Expander is there too!
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hi..i can help u out i have both PAL and a NTSC machine
tell me where to buy the cardridge
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amazing wrote:
hi..i can help u out i have both PAL and a NTSC machine
tell me where to buy the cardridge
PM sent!
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A little bump...
The Behr Bonz multicart now has its web page!
http://www.8bitcentral.com/behrbonz.htm
30$ can. per unit
10$ shipping to the US
11$ shipping to Europe or Australia
Shipping cost is the same for 1 up to 5 carts so you can save on shipping when ordering more than one cart.
And the Ultimate Expander 32k RAM + optional 32k ROM for the VIC-20 is still available too!
ALL PRICES IN CANADIAN DOLLARS!
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I am happy to announce that I now accept orders for the PAL version of the Behr Bonz multicart.
The price is the same as the NTSC version: 30$ canadian.
Shipping to Europe or Australia is 11$ for up to 5 carts.
Please visit www.8bitcentral.com
List of games included in the PAL version:
AE
Aggressor
Alien Blitz
Alphabet Zoo
Amok!
Arachnoid
Artillery Duel
Astroblitz
Atlantis
Attack of the mutant Camels
Avenger
Black Hole
Buck Rogers: Planet of Zoom
Cave-In
Centipede
Choplifter
Cloudburst
Clowns Joystick
Clowns Paddles
Computer War
Congo Bongo
Cosmic Cruncher
Cosmic Jailbreak
Creepy Corridors
Crossfire
Cyclon
Deadly Duck
Deadly Skies
Defender
Demon Attack
Dig Dug
Donkey Kong
Dragonfire
Droids
Fourth Encounter
Frogger
Galaxian
Gorf
Gridrunner
In the Chips
Jawbreaker II
Jelly Monsters
Jupiter Lander
Keyquest
Krazy Antics
KStar Patrol
Lazer Zone
Lode Runner
Lunar Leeper
Maze
Medieval Joust
Menagerie
Mine Madness
Miner 2049'er
Mobile Attack
Money Wars
Monster Maze
Moon Patrol
Mosquito Infestation
Motocross Racer
Ms Pacman
Mutant Herd
Omage Race
Outworld
Pacman
Paratrooper
Pharaoh's Curse
Pinball Spectacular
Pipes
Poker
Polaris
Pole Position
Predator
Princess and Frog
Protector
Q-Bert
Quackers
Radar Rat Race
Raid on Fort Knox
Rally-X
Rat Hotel
Renaissance
River Rescue
Road Race
Robot Panic
Robotron 2084
Scott Adams: Adventureland
Scott Adams: Mission Impossible
Scott Adams: Pirate's Cove
Scott Adams: The Count
Scott Adams: Voodoo Castle
Sargon II Chess
Satellite Patrol
Satellite and Meteorites
Scorpion
Sea Wolf
Seafox
Serpentine
Shamus
Sir Lancelot
Skibbereen
Skyblazer
Space Ric-o-shay
Spiders of Mars
Spike's Peak
Spills and Fills
Springer
Star Battle
Star Post
Star Trek: Strategic Operations Simulator
Sub Chase
Submarine Commander
Super Amok
Super Slot
Super Smash
Terraguard
The Sky is Falling
Threshold
Topper
Turmoil
Tutankham
Type Attack
Typo
Video Vermin
Videomania
Visible Solar System
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...I now accept orders for the PAL version of the Behr Bonz multicart.
Excellent! Time to move some money around for my Paypal account. :-)
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
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Wow, things go fast! 5 PAL units sold already!
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I paid for a cart but i found it a little worrying that Eslapion seems to have removed his account here as it says anonymous.
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He didn't remove his account, he has been banned from Amiga.org and his account was deleted, making all his former posts 'Anonymous'. Something to do with a discussion about a PSU which went a bit wrong...
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A bit wrong? How? What did he say? :-?
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tokyoracer wrote:
A bit wrong? How? What did he say? :-?
honestly, the whole thing was blown WAY OUT of proportion. you can see the original thread at lemon64.com... Esalpion is a solid, honest guy to buy stuff from...the flaming wars are just childs play :madashell:
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Yeah but why ban him from this forum?
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Don't understand why the ban.
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Chicken S#@t. This guy did nothing wrong on this forum. And, it's not like VIC=20 games have anything whatsoever to do with the Amiga-these games are all 25 years old , some almost 30!
Maybe one of the game's creators found out and was upset? That could be the only legitimate reason I could imagine for the ban but even that is kind of stretching it..
Dirty pool, old man :-(
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klx300r wrote:
> Esalpion is a solid, honest guy to buy stuff from...
Agreed. I have only had good dealings with the man.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v4 website - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
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I don't know whats going on with all this here really regarding whether the guy deleted his account or got banned or whatever. For what it's worth I think the Vic 20 thing he's built looks good and is pretty nicely made. I've never talked with this guy and I've never heard of him before until very recently.
He did in a previous thread on this board threaten to sue another guy on this board for dare saying that his power supply implementation was a fire hazard. I don't know what's going on on that other board where I read 10 pages of him and other people cursing at each other and acting like total jerks but I know that when that kind of crap starts flying here threads tend to get popped and some times somebody gets removed. I don't hit f5 on amiga.org every 2 minutes so I tend to miss a lot of the action and that's why I'm not feeling sorry for anybody. Especially when I've seen bad behavior in multiple threads on multiple other boards. And lets not forget the Vic thing is basically a warez cart.
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banned or not, offending website links still exist in the posts he left behind.
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The ban had nothing to do with the Behr Bonz cart. He was banned for repeated verbal assaults on a moderator(myself) and a few others in PM which is a repeated violation of the posting guidelines (http://www.amiga.org/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=6). See HERE (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36146) if you want to wade into the mud. This person reacted with a (baseless) threat sue Amiga.org.
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It is more clear now. I have read the link you suggested and understand the whole thing now.
BTW, How is your c128 tower project going, red? :-D
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_ThEcRoW wrote:
BTW, How is your c128 tower project going, red? :-D
Total standstill I hate to say. Without being a downer with details, I've got many distractions in my personal life at this time. :-(
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Hope to see some good news about it. :-)