So, i checked out AROS on my X86 machine a few minutes ago..

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and i am really surprised how good it already looks...

i am just getting back into the Amiga universe after a decadelong hiatus, and today i finally decided to give AROS a try after reading so much about over last few days of reading up stuff on the current Amiga scene.

some random thoughts of mine on this:

* You should really emphasize the fact that you can boot up the whole thing from cd, without the need of installing anything on a hd, as long as you don't try to save anything. My english is not the best, so i wasn't sure if i have to install anything on the harddrive of my PC to check it out, which would be a big no-no for me for just checking out an alternative OS.
This way probably a lot of people might give this a try who otherwise won't. This is a little bit like Knoppix, you can check out if you like it, and install later on (when everything's up to a state where it makes really sense).

Might give you some more public recognition.



* The "Workbench" looks fine so far. Still some tearing artifacts on the icons while moving the scrollbar, but i guess you are aware of this.


* Using CLI/Shell: i typed "endcli" to terminate the window, but instead the whole system started going down and booting up again. I wasn't sure if this behaviour is wanted or a known bug. It would also be nice to have "Ed" or any other editor starting up from within the shell, when being called.


So far, i really like what i have seen, and i am sure coming back for more.

Can you give me an estimate how many people are working on the various parts of AROS?

Thanks for all the work being done already,
Mike

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Is there a site explaining the "core mechanics" of developing for AROS? I mean, stuff like, which language do you use ( guess C), how do you compile and integrate stuff into the system, etc.

I have been doing ASM (6502, 6809, 68k) and C/C++ for a long time, but at the moment contributing something to AROS looks like a big mountain in front of me.

So, is there an "101 on AROS development" existing?   :-)




Edit: I guess i found it:

http://aros.sourceforge.net/documentation/developers/compiling.php

and subpages...

Good !!!  :-)

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I guess there were some ideas about implementing a Java Virtual Machine for AROS before?

Anybody working on this already? Maybe a Kaffe port?

Or would it be too early to think about this?

(lots of question marks  :-D )

greets,
Mike

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I think i had the same problem, and i noticed it had something to do with "floppy drive" (that i dont possess) being activated in my bios settings... after switching the floppy off, everything worked like a charm...

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But Jamiga was developed for OS4 and 3.9 ...

I guess AROS is not compatible to them, anyway, isn't it?

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Mazze wrote:

Steril707 wrote:
But Jamiga was developed for OS4 and 3.9 ...

I guess AROS is not compatible to them, anyway, isn't it?

This depends on what functions of AOS3.9 it uses. The biggest difference between AOS3.1 and 3.9 is the ReAction GUI system.

I guess i still have to learn a lot about AROS. The Amiga world can be confusing sometimes

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So, after the painful process of installing Ubuntu on my PC, which involved resizing existing partitions on my hard disk, get up and ndiswrapper for my wlancard, and reconfiguring stuff i have never heard about before (xorg.conf for backingstore), i finally was able to get the hosted version Aros running, and it looks quite fine.

So, up to the next questions:

How do i integrate the Contrib. files into the aros folder i created? What do i do with all these nMake files?

Sorry to ask, these things are all new to me, and i am happy i was able to get the Linux side of this running.

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Thanks for the hint on the "Binary"-Section. I wil try that out later. I guess that was the culprit.

So, some more questions from me:

How compatible is AROS in relation to the other A-OS'es or old code? I think i don't completely get this yet.

Example:
Let' say i take some old C-code, that adheres to the rules made by any old Amiga OS (3.1 or before), can i recompile that code and get it to run on AROS for example. And how compatible would this be to Morphos or AOS4?


Then, regarding this: http://ringlord.com/people/walrus/amiga/java.html

it seems there was already a working JVM on the Amiga platform. Wouldn't it been possible to get this to run on AROS somehow (so, thats where my questions about compatibilities from above come from).

I think getting Java to run on AROS would mean a lot of programs for the OS. And lots of programs cannot be a bad thing.

Mike

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Piru wrote:
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it seems there was already a working JVM on the Amiga platform.

It depends on your definition of "working". IMO amiga platform does not have java.

Well, if the Kaffe JVM got ported to the Amiga OS, couldn't it been done again for some newer JVM? I think it would.

I think getting Java to run on AROS would mean a lot of programs for the OS.

Such as? I can't remember many programs that don't have a GUI and run with anchient java version.

I was generally talking about Java, not specifically about these old ports.

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Generally speaking amiga has no Java.
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Really, man, i give up on you.

I asked about Java being ported to AROS, i asked about what possibilities there are with existing Amiga ports of the JVM with AROS.

I never talked about using any GUI related stuff firsthand, not about AWT and not about the Swing libraries.

Most of the stuff i encountered in Java development over the last years wasn't even Gui related, but of the server, security, Servlet, RMI type of applications. I think most people are not into Java created GUIs anyway.

Having a JVM port being able to execute thousands of console only apps would be fair enough for a start, don't you think so?