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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2007, 12:50:06 AM »
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How much are you offering to throw into the pot?


3000$
 

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2007, 12:51:20 AM »
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What patents? All the commodore Amiga patents expired a couple of years ago... All that's left now are the trademarks... which A.Inc can renew as often as they like.


I don't know for other countries but here in Canada, the Lego vs Mega Blocks case confirmed patents last 20 years.

The AGA patents are dated 1991 or 1992, I think and therefore, technically still are under the juris(my)diction of Amiga Inc until 2012.


What AGA patents? I've not seen any filed...

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2007, 12:55:01 AM »
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What AGA patents? I've not seen any filed...


What about the IP for OS 3.0 and 3.1 any copyright on this?
 

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2007, 12:57:31 AM »
even if there is, who cares?  any new OS would be a rewrite at thei point, right. so 3.0 and 3.1 irrelevent.  Most all of us already own os3.0 and 3.1 so we and emulate it all we want already.
 

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2007, 12:58:07 AM »
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What AGA patents? I've not seen any filed...


What about the IP for OS 3.0 and 3.1 any copyright on this?


Copyright yes, but as Hyperion, MorphOS and AROS have proved... the 3.x IP is useless... it's all 68k assembler... useless, you have to rewrite pretty much everything for a modern CPU... and as MorphOS and AROS have shown you can rewrite everything from scratch without access to the original source. The IP has NO value.

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2007, 12:59:45 AM »
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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2007, 01:00:54 AM »
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...MorphOS and AROS have shown you can rewrite everything from scratch without access to the original source. The IP has NO value.


Now that's a nice open door for future development.

Hey Dennis?!? You noted that?

P.S. Why is it my signature never shows up in my messages even if I check the box for that ?
 

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2007, 01:03:42 AM »
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Err...  :nervous:



*laughing hysterically*

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2007, 01:04:17 AM »
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...MorphOS and AROS have shown you can rewrite everything from scratch without access to the original source. The IP has NO value.


Now that's a nice open door for future development.

Hey Dennis?!? You noted that?


MiniMig running AROS... the thought never crossed my mind... :lol: :-D

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2007, 01:05:58 AM »
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Err...  :nervous:



*laughing hysterically*

Give you a big, {bleep} sword and you could be the official, Amiga Paladin. Someone at BioWare likes you, for I've seen your likeness in Neverwinter Nights, but somewhere buried in the forums is my posts and comments on *THAT* one.  :lol:


I seem to recal the post... hmmm... that was like, 3 or 4 years ago though...

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2007, 01:07:52 AM »
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How much are you offering to throw into the pot?


3000$


Canadian or US dollars? (Note: no p*ss take, but it matters.)
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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2007, 01:10:00 AM »
Is it any copyright infringement to run a virtual 68060 in an FPGA?

If not, perhaps the Minimig could become the Maximig...
 

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2007, 01:12:57 AM »
I believe the 68060 is a Motorola design...
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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2007, 01:13:19 AM »
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Is it any copyright infringement to run a virtual 68060 in an FPGA?

If not, perhaps the Minimig could become the Maximig...



You know, I really liked this one. I'm just a bit sad that Dennis has been so quiet, as of late. I like the idea of the Maximig, but I'm worried that the whole project has become a maxipad.  :-(
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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2007, 01:14:23 AM »
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Is it any copyright infringement to run a virtual 68060 in an FPGA?

If not, perhaps the Minimig could become the Maximig...


No, but it would be hard to get an 060 emualtion working in FPGA that would be anywhere near as fast as software emualtion of an 060 on the cheapest AMD or Intel CPU...

-Edit- you wouldn't bother with an 060, actually... since it was from a software point of view, an 040 with a few missing instructions...

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Re: Amiga fans could force merge Amiga Inc. and Hyperion...
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 04, 2007, 01:21:16 AM »
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Just a freaky stupid funny idea I'm throwing at you all.

Amiga Inc. paid less than 50'000$ to hyperion for OS 4.0. Does that mean anything to you people?

And the worst is... they actually made it. Or so they say.

To me, what it means is, both companies are very low budget companies and probably could be bought out for a relatively low price. Low being less than 500'000$ each.

If only a few hundreds, perhaps a few thousands of Amiga fans pooled a good amount of money together, it would be possible to buy out both companies, force merge them then force them to work together with one another and end this stupid battle.

But hey... that's just me... I'm a dreamer... an idealist... a crazy lunatic... a... whatever...


Too bad Amiga has a lot more cash than what you are talking about based on what we last knew, do searches on the Prokom Software SA investment they got (millions) and the very recent agreement with the city of Kent, Washington they entered into for naming rights for a new arena there (for again, millions).

How this is possible is anyone's guess, damn them for being a private company!  But they are not likely to sell for peanuts.  Maybe they are a tax write off for someone, some people think they are a money laundering op.  But no one can really say due to no access to the financials.  The only reason we know what we do at all is because Prokom is a public company and Kent, as a city goverment must be forthcoming with such things.

And if they don't have such money, they certainly don't want us to know about it, especially with the Kent deal in the newspapers.