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Offline LoadWB

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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #119 from previous page: September 19, 2010, 05:48:14 PM »
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Well, I guess there aren't many Mech Engineers here who are looking to keep their skills up-to-date then. If there are, then how do you personally afford the four-figure license fees for Ansys, AutoCAD, Soldworks, Pro-Engineer etc to keep your skills up-to-date?

I'm nottalking about using them as productivity tools, just in terms of maintaining familiarity and assimilating new features. And please don't tell me that you work within the demo limitations (eg 100 nodes limit for models) - I mean, really!


I am not sure if it is still doing so, but for a while during the start of the recession AutoDesk was offering a 60- or 90-day license for engineers who found themselves without a job.  I believe DataCAD was doing the same, but I cannot speak for the others.  Not sure how much that helps at this point considering how long and drawn out the economic downturn has been or will continue to be.

As well, if while during your down-time you enroll in a local community college or university to take some engineering or architectural classes, AutoDesk offers either reduced or free licensing for students.  I have been back taking a couple of classes a semester under a new program to keep me busy during my slow times.  When all is over, I will be much more marketable than I am now.
 

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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #120 on: September 19, 2010, 08:17:04 PM »
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You might be now, but I seriously doubt you NEVER did.  And I'm not talking about Ubuntu shipit.


Oh lookit, the goalposts are being moved!

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He expressed some strong emotions, calling Franko a "muppet", (something he regularly resorts to whenever someone doesn't agree with his POV, but never seems to be moderated for.)


Mmmm, what delicious butthurt you have there.

Perhaps you should fill out the relevant form. I'm sure I've posted it for you previously if you're that bothered.

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No but if it were me I wouldn't be incredulous about it and would understand why someone might have their doubts.


Of course you would, I believe you, thousands wouldn't.

What's that, you don't like being called a liar either? No wai!
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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #121 on: September 19, 2010, 09:00:03 PM »
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calling Franko a "muppet", (something he regularly resorts to whenever someone doesn't agree with his POV, but never seems to be moderated for.)

Subjective, really. Muppet is pretty innocuous. If somebody called me a muppet, I'd be pretty unfazed. Personal insults are a rum do, but you have to keep a sense of scale.

When stuff gets nasty and people get upset, then moderation comes into play. You'd all be complaining about censorship like it was going out of fashion if we cracked down on the slightest aggravated exchange.

If one takes offence at being called a muppet by a complete stranger for suggesting it is unbelievable that someone actually uses a "clean" system, then they should also realise that it is equally (if not a lot more) insulting to have your honesty questioned by a complete stranger.
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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #122 on: September 19, 2010, 09:48:07 PM »
I have machines loaded with copyrighted stuff I never paid for, I can barely think of any software on them that is not copyrighted, so I answered "yes".
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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #123 on: September 20, 2010, 12:48:33 AM »
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Oh lookit, the goalposts are being moved!



Mmmm, what delicious butthurt you have there.


You use "butthurt" a lot in your posts. Is there something that you want to bring out into the open?  C'mon your secret will be safe here amongst friend..you might even feel better letting it out in the open.
 

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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #124 on: September 20, 2010, 12:51:00 AM »
I, personally, would take pride in being called a muppet, especially given my current hairstyle.

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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #125 on: September 20, 2010, 12:58:23 AM »
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Subjective, really. Muppet is pretty innocuous. If somebody called me a muppet, I'd be pretty unfazed. Personal insults are a rum do, but you have to keep a sense of scale.

OK. so the standard is YOUR subjective opinion? And its not a one off.

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If one takes offence at being called a muppet by a complete stranger for suggesting it is unbelievable that someone actually uses a "clean" system, then they should also realise that it is equally (if not a lot more) insulting to have your honesty questioned by a complete stranger.

if that person has NEVER used pirated software EVER, yeah thats understandable.  But not if they say "I've used software illegally, but as eg of a few months ago", I don't.  But then to start jumping up and down and throwing insults when some reasonable doubt is expressed is simply over the top.  Maybe a case of "me thinks he doth protest too much"
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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #126 on: September 20, 2010, 05:57:05 AM »
most ppl have used an illeagle copy of windows weather they realise it or not.
it's hard to feel sorry for M$ about this tho.
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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #127 on: September 20, 2010, 09:23:19 AM »
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You use "butthurt" a lot in your posts.


Only because people like you seem to suffer from it so often.

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OK. so the standard is YOUR subjective opinion? And its not a one off.


As someone who has had to do moderation for webstes I'll let you in on something: Much of your duties depend on subjective opinion. Sure, there are TOS, but that can only help you so far. There are simply too many subtle and varied situations that one simply couldn't write rules for all of them.

And it isn't just Karlos opinion, but the collective opinion of all the mods who have viewed my posts.

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if that person has NEVER used pirated software EVER


Where have I, or anyone else said that?

Again with moving of goalposts!

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Maybe a case of "me thinks he doth protest too much"


Heh, so your response to being shot down for bawwwing about the term muppet is to pick up Franko's failbatton and start calling people liars.

Keep flapping.
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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #128 on: September 20, 2010, 12:56:40 PM »
Well, the question was phrased this way "Do you **Currently** Use". I have used pirated pieces of software from 93 to very recently. I don't feel the need anymore (Ubuntu + indie games, I have all I need + I donate to Gnome / KDE / inkscape / gimp to support the development).

I am just fully satisfied now with OSS / indie software.
 

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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #129 on: September 22, 2010, 03:21:28 PM »
Well, the results are in... :)

27.50% are nice, kind, honest & genuine folks who wouldn't do anything wrong...  :angel: :rolleyes:

5.00% are claiming their right's not to incriminate themselves... :sealed: :nervous:

70.00% are (me included) still waving the Jolly Roger and not giving a s**t about it.. :swords: :roflmao:

0.83% is claiming all of the above and is totally nuts.... :mickeymouse:
 

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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #130 on: September 22, 2010, 03:37:29 PM »
@Franko

Oi, I resemble that remark!
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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #131 on: September 22, 2010, 05:44:40 PM »
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70.00% are (me included) still waving the Jolly Roger and not giving a s**t about it.. :swords: :roflmao:


What does running copyrighted software you never paid for have to do with piracy anyways?
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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #132 on: September 22, 2010, 06:38:57 PM »
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What does running copyrighted software you never paid for have to do with piracy anyways?


As Aleksandr Orlov said, Simples... :)

If you were to ask the software companies they would claim that folk who use copyrighted software that they never paid for are, even if they are not the ones pirating it , that the pirates would have no one to sell to or even give away said software to... thus No end users, No pirates... Simples :)
 

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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #133 on: September 22, 2010, 06:55:57 PM »
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If you were to ask the software companies they would claim that folk who use copyrighted software that they never paid for are, even if they are not the ones pirating it , that the pirates would have no one to sell to or even give away said software to... thus No end users, No pirates... Simples :)


So all the copyrighted stuff on aminet... piracy? This poll is broken by design.
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Re: Answer Truthfully Now...
« Reply #134 on: September 22, 2010, 07:50:11 PM »
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So all the copyrighted stuff on aminet... piracy? This poll is broken by design.


Well unless the copyright owners haven't given permission to have their stuff freely distributed... then technically YES... :)

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This poll is broken by design.


Drat... rumbled... :(