Answer Truthfully Now...

[the_leander]

Yes, scuzz has it right.  Piracy certainly is stealing,

theft (θɛft)
 
—n
1.     criminal law the dishonest taking of property belonging to another person with the intention of depriving the owner permanently of its possession
2.     rare something stolen

Copyright infringement != Theft

And perpetuating the lie only serves to warn others of your idiocy.

[the_leander]

Not paying is akin to theft.

No it isn't. Theft has a very specific definition in law.

Pirating is the act of reproducing, repackaging and distribution of unathorized materials or goods for profit.

Maybe once, but the requirement for profit is no longer valid. Not in the US or UK. YMMV outside of those two however.

DLing a cracked piece of software through a bit torrent is knowingly receiving stolen property.

No, it isn't. That would be copyright infringement.

Interesting point: When I clicked on the pole I selected no, as at the time I had not one piece of software I hadn't paid for either directly or indirectly.

However today my copy of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS came courtesy of Shipit. I didn't pay a penny for it, not even the shipping. So were I to vote I would now have to select yes.

[the_leander]

Hmm... now don't take this the wrong way you 25 folk who so far have answerd NO...

But you're about to imply that there is absolutely no way that we could be running legally clean systems. That we're lying.

It's called open source software, you might want to look into it.

But I'm just a tiny wee bit sceptical that there are 25 Mother Teresa's out their that don't even have the tiniest little bit of software somewhere on their systems that they have erm... lets say forgotten about, that may indeed be not quite legally owned...

GTFO.

Read and understand muppet: Every piece of software on this system is completely legitimate. I have a valid licence for all of it. Thanks to the fact I donated toward my distro of choice, I could also select "no" from the list.

That I would have to have changed my answer as of yesterday, does not change the fact that there is no illegal software on this system. All it means is that I got a copy of Ubuntu from their own shipit service.

I'll also have to side with Karlos on this with regard the wording on the questions. They do imply that by saying yes you're admitting to piracy.

I'm not for one moment doubting your honesty, but lets just say I have never met anyone in real life who can actually claim this...

"I'm not for one moment doubting your honesty, but you're lying."

Again, GTFO.

[the_leander]

They speak the truth. However a lot of that group lead pretty dull mundane lives.

[the_leander]

My, My, aren't some folk a little bit touchy on this subject eh, the_leander ...

When you repeatedly imply the same thing over and over, yes it does begin to grate.

I do love the tactic though, the moment you get called on it you can play the innocent.

I never used the word 'lying'

No, you implied it, repeatedly and deliberately.

 you only read into my post what you believe it said, it's not my fault the you can't understand what a muppet like me is saying.

Ahh so it's everyone else's fault people are reading the clear implications you have made.

Right.

Gotcha.

The original question has nothing to do with implying that anyone is a pirate, it was merely asking if you have or use a piece of software on your system that you didn't actually pay for the use of and to use legally you would have had to pay for it.

Karlos covered this already.

I was never asking folk if they were a pirate who whether for money or for free churns out copies of software and distribute them or sells them, that is a pirate...

Piracy does not require a commercial side. Thanks to legislation like the DMCA, all that is done with. There is no distinction in law between someone using bittorrent for the first time and one of the factory ships sat off of the chinese coast mass producing knock offs of your favourite films. Whether or not that is right or fair is irrelevant.

But of course you already knew that.

But to all you Mother Teresa's out there, please accept the humble apologies of a muppet...

Careful, your passive aggressive is showing...Mother Teresa.

I still choose however to remain a teensy weensy lickle bit sceptical...

I couldn't give a crap what you believe: DOX or GTFO.

[the_leander]

--A complete lack of dox--

Thought so.

[the_leander]

Reckon what I call humor doesn't seem to travel too well across the pond with some folk.

Being treated with contempt doesn't come off as funny anywhere.

[the_leander]

You might be now, but I seriously doubt you NEVER did.  And I'm not talking about Ubuntu shipit.

Oh lookit, the goalposts are being moved!

He expressed some strong emotions, calling Franko a "muppet", (something he regularly resorts to whenever someone doesn't agree with his POV, but never seems to be moderated for.)

Mmmm, what delicious butthurt you have there.

Perhaps you should fill out the relevant form. I'm sure I've posted it for you previously if you're that bothered.

No but if it were me I wouldn't be incredulous about it and would understand why someone might have their doubts.

Of course you would, I believe you, thousands wouldn't.

What's that, you don't like being called a liar either? No wai!

[the_leander]

You use "butthurt" a lot in your posts.

Only because people like you seem to suffer from it so often.

OK. so the standard is YOUR subjective opinion? And its not a one off.

As someone who has had to do moderation for webstes I'll let you in on something: Much of your duties depend on subjective opinion. Sure, there are TOS, but that can only help you so far. There are simply too many subtle and varied situations that one simply couldn't write rules for all of them.

And it isn't just Karlos opinion, but the collective opinion of all the mods who have viewed my posts.

if that person has NEVER used pirated software EVER

Where have I, or anyone else said that?

Again with moving of goalposts!

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Maybe a case of "me thinks he doth protest too much"

Heh, so your response to being shot down for bawwwing about the term muppet is to pick up Franko's failbatton and start calling people liars.

Keep flapping.