Hans-Joerg and Thomas Frieden withdraw themself from the public

[CyberViking2000]

I think they did absolutely the right thing. It can be a hellish thing to try and develop a product when you have a bunch of back-biters going for the jugular all of the time.


 :-D viking2000@interbaun.com

[The_Beast]

i absolutely agree with Hans and Thomas, let the nay sayers and negsative anonymous posters eat their words when os4 finally comes out =)


 :-D  the Beast

[Coder]

Offcourse it was not just a few postings with negative thoughts. Seems those people get a kick out of smashing everything down. Maybe they were send by Bill Gates. You never know.

Coder

[System]

Personally I'm suprised that they get so much work done
considering the amount of time they must have spent trying to explain
themseves on every forum around.

I do though, think that they let themselves get too easily baited by
their knockers and they needed to learn to turn the other cheek rather
than turn their back on the community. This is applicable though to
many Amiga personalities and in general anyone on the web. No one
wants inaccurate opinions of them to stand for digital eternity.

The rest of us should do our bit though and stop behaving like phirana
every time a drop of information hits the water.

[Bifford]

Personally i can't say that I blame the fellas.  Its a shame but its not the end of the world.

I know for a fact that a few people are keeping them up-to-date if anything important is said. (re them or the amiga community in general)

So fear not, they have just got fed up with the bickering.

Its annoying cause its human nature to say something when they are unhappy but do people ever write and say "thanks guys, great job" etc.  no.  well - not very often so its VERY easy for people to get a negative view on things.  its just a sad fact that people dont convey their Good feelings aas often as they do their Bad ones. ;/

anyway. ramble over.
TTFN
Biff

[Maddestman]

I can understand why they chose to do this.  I have subscribed to that particular list (as I'm sure most people who frequent this web site have), and so have seen for myself what they are talking about.  I just hope that they realise there are people like me who don't often, if ever, post to the list, but read it with great enthusiasm, and will be sad to no longer hear news direct from them.

I wish them the best, and I look forward to seeing the results of all their hard work for myself.

[System]

This is a sad indication of how vicious the bickering and whying is in the Amiga community. The Amiga needs people trying to work to achive goals, this means people working togeather.. not just thousands of individuals explaining to the few that are ACTUALLY doing somthing why they should be following some lame half baked idea on the way things should be... :hammer:  :hammer:  :hammer:

[Argo]

I was amazed by the amount of messages they posted, not to mention the thickness of their hides. It was evident in the last few weeks that that hide had been worn thin by a few individuals, as they engaged in debates armed with facts and logic against illogic and close minded ingnorance.

[System]

Sometimges I really hate the Amiga community!!! 100% support for the Frieden brothers from me!

[Rodney]

Maybe they should just sit themselfs at Amiga.org? I dont see any such type of MorhphOS bashing or AmigaOS bashing or Hyperion Bashing on Amiga.org. I dont see bickering or flame wars.

Im so greateful to wayne for getting Amiga.org back. The other site that i retreated to, umm well, we getting on my nervs a lot, and it saden me to see the community act in such ways.

Fortunatly i dont see it on this site. If it does happen, well, thank god for wayne and other moderators to be here to clean that stuff up .

Thanks guy.

Wayne, if you need a nother moderator, i would be happy to do what is needed. Im busy, but i would really like to contribute soething towards the community since ive taken so much . You know where to find me...

[Chathurawind]

Do I REALLY need to see your post?

[Chathurawind]

You know the constant drumbeat of the censor loving control freaks is about as tiring as any flame war.

As for withdrawing from debate, sure why not, it gets old after a while.  It's much better to withdraw from a debate than to demand that debate not exist.  How childish is that!

Kudos to Hans-Joerg and Thomas Frieden for having a bit of dignity.

[System]

You know the constant drumbeat of the censor loving control freaks is about as tiring as any flame war.

While I would almost agree with you, I don't believe that to be a fair assessment.  Most of these guys aren't "censor-loving control freaks", most are just tired of having to duke it out with people who don't share the same opinion.  

Humorously, you can almost always tell the reasonable opinions versus the rash opinions by the fact that "Anonymous" postings are almost always poorly thought out or purposely abrasive.

Wayne Hunt
directNIC.com

[Coder]

You are right Wayne. And offcourse there is nothing wrong with some critics/negative words, but post it as a registered user.

Coder

[the_leander]

After months of backbiting, name calling and slanging matches in some of the Amiga Groups, both on Yahoo and Usenet over the past year or so, I can quite understand where these two lads are comming from..

When I first went online with my amiga I was almost swept away by the shear amount of help the comunity offered, yet inside of Two and a half years, this community has become more and more spitefull towards each other.
The Amiga Community was in my opinion one of the Amigas greatest strengths, it was something to be proud of. Today, It is an embaresment to us all. The fact that it is so rotten that it drives away men of this quality away from them is so shameful.

I wish that I had the guts these guys have, to pull away from the mud slingers and the "experts" and still wish to work to develop this lost treasure into something viable again. I don't think I would have the strength of charactor to do that somehow.

I'm only sad that I'll not be able to enjoy the fruits of there labours when they have finished this masterpiece as I have already made tracks elsewhere as I type this.

[Darth_X]

and we have deleted all our Amiga bookmarks

Is it just me or does anyone else find this weird?