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Re: MorphOS on x86???
« on: September 08, 2008, 11:27:44 PM »
Very nice web site Warpdesign.

If only Dennis could make minimig into a pci card. Then a x86 motherboard would have a true heart and a migration for the OS would be easier to justify. How about a MEGAMIG.
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Re: MorphOS on x86???
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2008, 08:27:43 AM »
Michael, thank you for porting it to x86 the far biggest, the cheapest, most scalable, most powerful platform available. I run it with astronomical speed on an x64. Personally I wished you had worked on a browser but I hope it will come any way and that will make a big difference for my use of AROS on a more daily basis.
Amiga made a bad call in not recognizing the worlds demand for 3d. Amiga needs power behind it. Going x86 is in IMHO the cheapest and most reasonable way.

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Re: MorphOS on x86???
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2008, 09:05:48 AM »
@Painkiller

Well a PS3 is a PS3 (Never owned one. Always did work and played games on PC with the latest graphic cards.) But if you buy an old PC for a dollar you can run AROS. If you make a HTPC you can run AROS or you can run it on a brand new power PC or a small pico itx. The versatility is the heaviest argument for me.

If it walks, flies or swims you can use it if it's x86. That's that extra ability that makes it compelling to me.
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Re: MorphOS on x86???
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2008, 11:17:32 AM »
@downix
In my experience I found it easier working by a desk than walking blindly in traffic.  

I don’t believe desktops are out. By the time your small devices are capable of what a power machine can accomplish  today, that power machine will accomplish ten times the handheld for a smaller price with the best games and apps following its demand.

I don’t buy your logic here.

You said: Alright, and you're going to hire the people needed to code for the billions of possible combinations of hardware, right?

I said now: Ask sammuraicrow. I think he is implementing that LLVE thing or something that will make AROS very processor independent indeed. I haven’t looked at it. And I don’t understand it, but I think it will be important for the future development.

Finally: This is an Amiga community. If AROS can run the Amiga software then the programs that are liked can be used. Final writer and so on. And it is possible to make better versions because the added power of AROS and the hardware under it.


 
Have a hard time seeing the end of the world.
The only thing that is sad is that all expert programmers should work on one single OS, but that is a personal opinion. So much more could be accomplished in shorter time that way. But....



EDIT several hours later: It was LLVM.
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Re: MorphOS on x86???
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2008, 11:57:30 AM »
@Piru
You are the one with knowledge here not me. I return the question by asking:  Is there a way to use the native pc drivers. I don’t know if this is possible but if AROS could somehow utilize the drivers so they didn’t have to be rewritten??

About LLVE: I overheard a discussion about apple going this way for cpu independence that all.

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Re: MorphOS on x86???
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2008, 12:04:32 PM »
"Grass, Gas, or Ass, No One Rides For Free."  :lol:

I will contribute.
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Re: MorphOS on x86???
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2008, 12:21:13 PM »
downix you said:The Amiga was about being the next big thing. Frankly, there is no NBT in desktops. There is, however, in smaller, lightweight products. And the Amiga, and MorphOS, are uniquely situated to such markets. Instant-on, multitasking, and scalable. And the weakness of the design, not so relevent anymore once you get to that scale.

I say: I can see your point. And agree. But I have a different view about Amiga's possibility to snatch back market shares and finding its place next to PC and MAC. And why? because being in the Amiga OS is an experience, that is special.  
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