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I want to make an animated movie
« on: March 12, 2018, 01:43:49 AM »
Hi All:

A little while ago, I posted  a question on installing a HC+ ram with HDD for a2000.
My question was answered.
What I did not post until the end, was the reason on why i wanted the extra ram
and Hard Disk Drive.
What i really want to do is to make a 20 minute animation on my amiga 2000
using moviesetter and deluxe paint 4.
I have a 68000 amiga 2000 with 2 mb ram and 50 mb HD.
I am only starting with moviesetter, but I love it very much and would like
to give it a try.
Before expanding my amiga, I want to spend this year learning moviesetter to
find out if I can come up with enough talent to make the movie.
If at the end of the year I am satisfied, then I would try to expand my amiga
to make the full movie.
Moviesetter is very good, and only needs more ram to make longer animations.
Is possible I only need to make a few segments of animation ( a few megs per
segment) and then join them later, however I do not know how to do it.
What I need is to make 20 minutes of moviesetter animation and have a way
to store it digitally/send it to cd if possible.
A lot of ram will help, but as I said, is possible to make smaller segments
of animation if i can somehow join them later. How can I do this ?
Any ideas will be welcome.
Thank you very much !!!
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I want to make an animated movie
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2018, 02:26:25 AM »
To join the segments you only need to make an AmigaDOS script that calls the player for each segment one after the other.  The downside is each segment will pause during the loading but the upside is that it won't need as much RAM.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: I want to make an animated movie
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2018, 02:54:15 AM »
Get Scala.

There is a demo script called "Lo scalatore" which is a very short movie with sound made of a series of anims. So a working concept of what your are looking for is already there.

If you want to make it portable you can use Hollywood's Malibu plug-in with a Hollywood player that suits the platform of your choice, or use an amiga emulator an play it back.

BTW, AnimLab that comes with Scala lets you easily build animations from a set of images and has a very good anim format variant that compresses them in a substancial manner.

Good luck!
 

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I want to make an animated movie
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2018, 05:29:41 AM »
There is a plug-in for MovieSetter in Hollywood as well but that's not relevant.  Scala isn't necessary either.  DeluxePaint4 can render Anim5 independently of either of them.  The hard part to replace in MovieSetter is the audio handling.  There are utilities that add audio to anims as well as CDXL streaming.  Most require a 68020 to work though so just keep using MovieSetter for now.
 

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Re: I want to make an animated movie
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2018, 05:31:31 PM »
I remember using Moviesetter back in the day...Good luck man!

Speaking as an animator, 20mins is a TON of animation to do, a drawing tablet will be a good investment.
 

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Re: I want to make an animated movie
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2018, 06:20:05 PM »
Main Actor Broadcast supports HDD playback and it can edit too.
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Re: I want to make an animated movie
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2018, 10:50:24 PM »
Quote from: rednova;837245
Hi All:

A little while ago, I posted  a question on installing a HC+ ram with HDD for a2000.
My question was answered.
What I did not post until the end, was the reason on why i wanted the extra ram
and Hard Disk Drive.
What i really want to do is to make a 20 minute animation on my amiga 2000
using moviesetter and deluxe paint 4.
I have a 68000 amiga 2000 with 2 mb ram and 50 mb HD.
I am only starting with moviesetter, but I love it very much and would like
to give it a try.
Before expanding my amiga, I want to spend this year learning moviesetter to
find out if I can come up with enough talent to make the movie.
If at the end of the year I am satisfied, then I would try to expand my amiga
to make the full movie.
Moviesetter is very good, and only needs more ram to make longer animations.
Is possible I only need to make a few segments of animation ( a few megs per
segment) and then join them later, however I do not know how to do it.
What I need is to make 20 minutes of moviesetter animation and have a way
to store it digitally/send it to cd if possible.
A lot of ram will help, but as I said, is possible to make smaller segments
of animation if i can somehow join them later. How can I do this ?
Any ideas will be welcome.
Thank you very much !!!
Maybe someone will mention the DPS PAR card?
 

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Re: I want to make an animated movie
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2018, 09:01:06 AM »
DPS PAR is for outputting to video tape isn't it? (Speaking out of ignorance here, I've never owned one myself)

I've been using deluxe Video to stitch together DPaint anims with sound, don't know if it will help with your memory limitation issues though...
 

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Re: I want to make an animated movie
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2018, 04:18:05 PM »
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DPS PAR is for outputting to video tape isn't it? (Speaking out of ignorance here, I've never owned one myself)

I've been using deluxe Video to stitch together DPaint anims with sound, don't know if it will help with your memory limitation issues though...
from the BBoA..
The Personal Animation Recorder, is a full length Zorro II card designed to capture video in real-time, including real-time playback. The card contains an IDE controller for use as dedicated drives for capturing video. The PAR may be limited to hard drives of 8GB or less, but this is unconfirmed. The card appears to contain a 50pin SCSI connector, but this is intended to be used to attach the card to a TBC such as the Personal TBC-IV. The PAR was supplied with software which could produce computer animations and camera animations as well as support for rotoscoping and time lapse video recording. Still grabs require the use of a time base corrector such as the Personal TBC-IV. Cards containing a Revision A 35-PAC-AUB (as highlighted in the pictures) may have problems if a second IDE drive is added. In order to fix this problem, the chip needs replacing with a Revision B 35-PAC-AUB. The DR-2150 is the NTSC version of the card, whilst the DR-3150 is the PAL version.