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Offline atron

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2016, 09:48:44 AM »
Quote from: NovaCoder;817487
This is about the best I could do on real hardware with sound using MooVid


Looks nice. So this is running @80Mhz on your system? Is this playing from disk or memory?
 

Offline NovaCoder

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2016, 11:39:30 AM »
Quote from: atron;817493
Looks nice. So this is running @80Mhz on your system? Is this playing from disk or memory?

Thanks, I did try a few different movies and got very different results....could never get it quite 'perfect' though

Yes this was using an 80Mhz 1260 Blizzard.   Not sure if this video was streaming from memory or disk, can't remember now.
Life begins at 100 MIPS!


Nice Ports on AmiNet!
 

Offline magnetic

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2016, 01:33:07 PM »
Quote from: atron;817486
That's a nice website. convert2cdxl looks like the most convenient way of converting to CDXL. It converts it to videos with only 12 frames/s (hopefully there is a way to tweak this ;).


hmm could a CDTV disk be created that would play a movie from cd rom?
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Offline skolman

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2017, 10:36:06 PM »
New Amiga 1200 HAM8 video player
https://youtu.be/zuKQncH32sE
A1200 BlizzardPPC BVision Lan/WiFi FastATA Gold,
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https://youtu.be/mjsGVkDjBOc
 

Offline NovaCoder

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2017, 10:55:00 PM »
Quote from: skolman;822512
New Amiga 1200 HAM8 video player
https://youtu.be/zuKQncH32sE


Looks a bit too good to be true..
Life begins at 100 MIPS!


Nice Ports on AmiNet!
 

Offline paul1981

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2017, 01:57:50 AM »
Quote from: NovaCoder;822513
Looks a bit too good to be true..


I hope it is true, as the HAM6/HAM8 player from the AVI4HV converter package was shocking last time I checked (in 2012) due to NO BUFFERING of video! Talk about hard drive head killer - this thing was worse than a 10 year old installation of Windows XP.
I did make a video of my own and so had a bit of fun with it anyway. I even play it from time to time. :)
 

Offline saimon69

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2017, 02:07:27 AM »
Isn'it time to expand the CDXL format to do some more advanced stuff then? I know Amiga do this stuff, me and a friend of mine used to participate in animation competition with 12FPS videos in Anim7 but those are BIG and disk-grinding; for a more widespread use some optimization is needed IMO...

Offline SamuraiCrow

Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2017, 12:36:11 PM »
I believe CDXL is not an openly documented format but there's still some room for improvement.  What do you have in mind?
 

Offline skolman

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2017, 07:54:37 PM »
Quote from: NovaCoder;822513
Looks a bit too good to be true..


Unfortunately, the standard disk controller (PIO-0) is too slow. This HAM8 video file has over 600MB. https://youtu.be/nnJw-jaSUGs
A1200 BlizzardPPC BVision Lan/WiFi FastATA Gold,
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Offline atron

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2017, 11:57:03 AM »
Quote from: skolman;822512
New Amiga 1200 HAM8 video player
https://youtu.be/zuKQncH32sE

Awesome!!! I got it working in fs-uae in A1200 mode.

Good to see that the playing of videos is now picking up (again) for classic Amigas! Let's keep the chipset melting :)

PS:  I couldn't get it working on my A4000, there appears to be something  A1200 specific hiding in it ... A3000 mode in fs-uae plays the sound,  but not the video. It does work in A1200 mode.
 

Offline SamuraiCrow

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2017, 01:47:29 PM »
Quote from: SamuraiCrow;822567
I believe CDXL is not an openly documented format but there's still some room for improvement.  What do you have in mind?
I found that there is a CDXL player with source on the Aminet at http://aminet.net/package/gfx/show/cdxl_player for OS 3 with graphics card or MorphOS and http://aminet.net/package/gfx/show/cdxlplay for OS 4 with heavier graphics card.  For AROS there's an SDL version at http://aminet.net/package/gfx/show/cdxlplay-sdl .

Apparently the cat is out of the bag after all!
 

Offline atron

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2017, 09:31:51 AM »
Hi guys, finally I got some more tools working, wrote my own sound converter and "chunk shuffler" and can now get AnimFX running with sound and proper play rate. Here is a video with 5 HAM variants (HAM6/HAM8 with one shared palette and multiple palettes) and for dreamers a hires version. I can run V1-V4 on my Amiga, V5 is (as expected) too slow on my Amiga - but it is fast enough in FS-UAE ... which made me wonder a bit ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQg7CcgQqOU

CDXL works too @ 25 FPS in lores for V1 without blit option (but  flicker) (in PIO-4 setting), and it  does appear to be fast enough - unfortunately I never got the CDXL  player working with multiple color palettes in HAM mode.

Next I may look at my CD32 or Picasso IV with MPEG (RIVA player is much better in skipping frames while still keeping the music playing properly) or I start writing my own HAM player .. :)
 

Offline kolla

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2017, 03:47:40 PM »
Very cool.

Just for the heck of it, did you try PAL Hires Laced?
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Offline gregthecanuck

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2017, 02:52:11 AM »
THIS IS WHAT THE AMIGA IS ABOUT. Hacking around and pushing the boundaries on what can be done. Nice work and keep on hacking! :)
 

Offline atron

Re: Having fun with HAM8 videos
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2017, 05:41:30 AM »
Quote from: kolla;824953
Very cool.
Just for the heck of it, did you try PAL Hires Laced?

No, because the full video wouldn't fit into memory :) But the short  one would fit, yeah worth a try. I still remember these laced modes on  my 1081 monitor .. that's why I probably avoided it also in lores ;)