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Offline kolla

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #150 on: November 22, 2015, 07:17:30 AM »
Quote from: kamelito;798165
Trevor in his speech says " 14 developers engaged under NDA..." Which is common in the software industry so I see no problem here.
Kamelito


Well - I see many.

Firstly, Amiga is not "software industry", it is recreational programming.

Secondly, any dispute over NDAs is a lose-lose scenario, so why bother?

Thirdly, by tricking developers to sign "secret NDAs", A-EON may prevent these developers from working with both AROS and MorphOS - but maybe that is actually the plan, who knows.
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Offline kolla

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #151 on: November 22, 2015, 07:27:12 AM »
Quote from: matthey;798628
The AmigaOS used to be efficient enough and scalable enough to run on a 68000@7.14MHz with 256kB of memory. Now we need a 2 GHz clock speed and more than 4 GB of memory?


Yes we do, because "content is king" and "content" these days is _vastly_ larger than it used to be. And it is not going to shrink any time soon, so the only deal for hardware and operating systems to remain usable, is to handle it.
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Offline broadblues

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #152 on: November 22, 2015, 02:17:54 PM »
Quote from: kolla;799383
Well - I see many.

Firstly, Amiga is not "software industry", it is recreational programming.

Secondly, any dispute over NDAs is a lose-lose scenario, so why bother?

Thirdly, by tricking developers to sign "secret NDAs", A-EON may prevent these developers from working with both AROS and MorphOS - but maybe that is actually the plan, who knows.


Having signed the NDA I can tell you it says no such thing.  It simply says I can't use the various a-eon ip in external products and that I can't talk about what software is going on behind the scenes. It doesn't prevet me from writing my own software (subject to not using the IP ofcourse) and it doesn't prevent me from writing for any OS.

Offline broadblues

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #153 on: November 22, 2015, 02:19:43 PM »
Quote from: kolla;799385
Yes we do, because "content is king" and "content" these days is _vastly_ larger than it used to be. And it is not going to shrink any time soon, so the only deal for hardware and operating systems to remain usable, is to handle it.


Absolutly!

Offline broadblues

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #154 on: November 22, 2015, 02:28:30 PM »
Quote from: kolla;799389
Hm, it was dropped? I still see lots of P96 stuff in OS4.1FE Classic.


Since FE (or more strictly graphics.library version 54) the functionality has moved inside graphics.library so p96 no longer patchs graphics.library rather the p96API is a wrapper to Gfx functions.

So you will still see the external files, the innards have changed.

Offline kolla

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #155 on: November 22, 2015, 08:53:53 PM »
Quote from: broadblues;799399
Having signed the NDA I can tell you it says no such thing.  It simply says I can't use the various a-eon ip in external products and that I can't talk about what software is going on behind the scenes. It doesn't prevent me from writing my own software (subject to not using the IP ofcourse) and it doesn't prevent me from writing for any OS.


Well, that is good, I guess. How do you distinguish between what is "their IP" and what is "your IP"? Is it about the ideas, the algorithms, or about the source code? Developers should be aware that NDAs are negotiable, it is not just a "sign here" thing.
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Offline eliyahu

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #156 on: November 23, 2015, 03:23:07 PM »
@thread

given we kinda went off the rails here, i've moved off-topic posts to two new threads. for those of you interested in discussing P96 and opening up old software, please head to this thread. for those of you interested in a rant on companies somehow destroying the amiga, you can head to the sock drawer thread.

please keep this thread focused on A-EON's developer initiative. thanks! :)

-- eliyahu
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Offline Tygre

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #157 on: January 26, 2016, 06:40:43 PM »
Dear all!

I replied to the call but never got any answers back, have you?

Cheers!

Offline Niding

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #158 on: January 26, 2016, 06:57:23 PM »
Quote from: Tygre;802983
Dear all!

I replied to the call but never got any answers back, have you?

Cheers!


My comment earlier in this thread regarding no reply issue;

"I sent a email to that email adress myself several weeks ago regarding login to AmiStore. No reply for weeks. Eventually I got tired of waiting, so I contacted Matthew directly to his Amigakit user on Amiga.org. Got a quick reply then."

I remember reading a comment from Matthew, where he said they had more response to the call than they expected, and are going thru the list one by one.
I obviously think that was the wrong way of doing it. They should have replied to everyone initially "Thanks for your show of intrest. We are currently processing the queries one by one, so expect some delay until we have capacity to adress your intrest. Sincerely, Matthew/Trevor" etc.

As its done at the moment, people mailing get the impression its a dead email adress.

I would recommend you just post your query via private message to Amigakit thru the messaging system on amiga.org and amigaworld.net. Usually Matthew responds quickly to those messages.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #159 on: January 26, 2016, 07:04:03 PM »
why am i not surprised?

@niding:
so what have you been engaged to work on? or is this under nda?
« Last Edit: January 26, 2016, 07:07:24 PM by wawrzon »
 

Offline Niding

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #160 on: January 26, 2016, 07:13:22 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;802985
why am i not surprised?

@niding:
so what have you been engaged to work on? or is this under nda?


No, I just sent a mail to that adress since it is also used for issues regarding AmiStore.
Since that issue happened at the time people started to get annoyed about not getting any response to their queries, I just let them know that private messages has always gotten instant reaction from Matthew.
 

Offline wawrzon

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #161 on: January 26, 2016, 07:26:59 PM »
Quote from: Niding;802986
No, I just sent a mail to that adress since it is also used for issues regarding AmiStore.
Since that issue happened at the time people started to get annoyed about not getting any response to their queries, I just let them know that private messages has always gotten instant reaction from Matthew.


but the call for developers post points you explicitly to an email form. would be interesting if there is anyone who has successfully applied.
 

Offline Niding

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #162 on: January 26, 2016, 07:44:06 PM »
I know it explicitly calls for contact thru email. BUT, personally Im not of the patient type; If I dont get a response within "reasonable" time, I alway contact thru other means.

As I said; Aeonkit seems to be quite bad at email replies, so take the consequense of that ;)
 

Offline Tygre

Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #163 on: January 27, 2016, 12:42:55 AM »
Quote from: Niding;802989
I know it explicitly calls for contact thru email. BUT, personally Im not of the patient type; If I dont get a response within "reasonable" time, I alway contact thru other means.

Thanks for your reply, will do as you suggest!

Cheers! :)