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Offline carvedeye

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2015, 09:42:41 PM »
Quote from: polyp2000;795191
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Sure looks like it  - with a different badge.


Haha well spotted :)
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Offline Trev

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2015, 06:24:11 AM »
I wonder what will happen when the channel goes dry? Logitech announced it was exiting the OEM business in its 2015 earnings statement: http://news.logitech.com/press-release/corporate/logitech-exceeds-fiscal-year-2015-expectations-best-earnings-seven-years. This must be a limited run using stock on hand. EDIT: It might also thrash your RDB. Or are we not joking about that anymore?
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2015, 07:24:04 AM »
Quote from: Leffmann;795098
I see it's a 1000 DPI mouse, but does the adapter scale the DPI down, or will I get a pointer 4-5 times the speed of the older Amiga mice?

It's not a problem in Workbench, but games usually just assume you're using the original 200 or so DPI mouse.

This version works just fine for playing games.  Was playing Lemmings against my girl with it just earlier today.  She hates that I keep beating her though, but I guess you could say I've been practicing since about 1990 or so, LOL.  ;)

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Offline Thorham

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2015, 08:00:47 AM »
Nice, but does the scroll wheel work in the same way as with the Cocolino mouse adapter? I sure hope not...
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2015, 04:48:02 PM »
Quote from: Thorham;795233
Nice, but does the scroll wheel work in the same way as with the Cocolino mouse adapter? I sure hope not...

Eh?  I use Freewheel, it works fine.  100% usable, surprising how many programs recognize the scroll wheel.  Granted I'm using the USB version (through a Cocolino) so can't speak for this 9-pin version, but I'm assuming they're pretty much the same (except for the interface).  ;)

Edit:  I'm sure some people will hate it.  But some people just like to complain about anything.  :p
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Offline Thorham

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2015, 04:55:51 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;795247
Eh?
Cocolino uses a trick to enable use of the mouse wheel and this messes with the normal mouse movement. It sucks, and is a legitimate complaint. I won't ever buy anything that works in a similar way. Basically, original ball mice work better :(
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2015, 05:53:01 PM »
Quote from: Thorham;795248
Cocolino uses a trick to enable use of the mouse wheel and this messes with the normal mouse movement. It sucks, and is a legitimate complaint. I won't ever buy anything that works in a similar way. Basically, original ball mice work better :(

I own two of them and I use them with my Amiga's almost every day.  I honestly have no idea what you're talking about!  Maybe you just got a defective one?

[Insert joke about "my balls are collecting dust" here]  :p
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Offline Thorham

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2015, 07:10:13 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;795250
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about!
The movement doesn't seem off somehow? I find that very hard to believe.
 

Offline Christian Johansson

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2015, 07:20:10 PM »
I also got a Cocoline and it works fine.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2015, 07:28:53 PM »
Quote from: Thorham;795253
The movement doesn't seem off somehow? I find that very hard to believe.

Only if I haven't had my coffee yet for the day and my hand shakes.  ;)

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Offline matthey

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2015, 08:04:55 PM »
Quote from: Thorham;795248
Cocolino uses a trick to enable use of the mouse wheel and this messes with the normal mouse movement. It sucks, and is a legitimate complaint. I won't ever buy anything that works in a similar way. Basically, original ball mice work better :(


No problems here with my Cocolino either (AmigaOS 3.9). Check your software for the latest versions. Cocolino.driver 1.2 is on the Elbox web site.

http://www.elbox.com/downloads_cocolino.html

FreeWheel 2.2.2 is on aminet.

http://aminet.net/util/mouse/FreeWheel.lha
 

Offline Thorham

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2015, 09:56:14 PM »
Quote from: matthey;795256
Check your software for the latest versions.
Software or no software makes no difference.

The movement isn't as nice as native mice. It's not that there's anything wrong with the Cocolino interface, it's that it uses a trick to make the scroll wheel available over one game port. This sacrifices some accuracy in the movement. You can notice this when making large diagonal movements at various speeds. Moving the mouse in a circle shape very slowly will result in the mouse pointer moving in a rectangular fashion.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2015, 10:00:19 PM by Thorham »
 

Offline Pyromania

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2015, 01:51:23 AM »
I now see the Logic in this Tech. I will order a couple of them soon.
 

Offline giZmo350

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2015, 01:59:12 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;795232
She hates that I keep beating her though, but I guess you could say I've been practicing since about 1990 or so, LOL.  ;)

Maybe you might try letting her WIN sometime!  :knuddel:

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Offline QuikSanz

Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2015, 03:23:01 AM »
Quote from: QuikSanz;795107
That joystick looks to be a switched type, Digital. Operation Stealth and others allow you to use an analog type stick, Continuously variable. Much better for flight. I have an old Quikshot but it's getting very sloppy and won't stay centered.


Maybe it's just bad potentiometers? I'll put in some new ones and see if it helps.