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Offline lionstorm

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2015, 06:16:39 PM »
Quote from: AmiDude;790593
I have two programs that can do the same thing: DirectoryOpus & Diskmaster.
I've configured it so that if i double click on any file (text, pictures, librarys e.o.),
I can see picture, text or info from versions of librarys and other programs. Heck,
i can even see the contents of lha, lzx, adf and dms archive files by double clicking
on the archive file.
So no need for another expensive "new" multiple viewer.


if it is that good, why dont you send the config files to Aminet so that others can benefit from your finding ?
 

Offline amigakit

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2015, 07:37:58 PM »
@AmiDude

The great things about computers, and the Amiga is no exception in this respect, is that you can use them in a way that you are comfortable with doing.  So if DOpus serves the purpose for you, then that's great.
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Offline Thorham

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2015, 10:22:18 PM »
Quote from: lionstorm;790594
if it is that good, why dont you send the config  files to Aminet so that others can benefit from your finding ?

You're acting as if that's a hard thing to do :lol:
 

Offline kolla

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2015, 03:33:13 AM »
Does MultiViewer do the one thing MultiView doesn't do - does it handle streaming media, be it sound or video?
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Offline Gulliver

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2015, 03:59:36 AM »
Quote from: lionstorm;790594
if it is that good, why dont you send the config files to Aminet so that others can benefit from your finding ?

It is not a finding. It has been done since a decade.
If you didnĀ“t know, Aminet has a search function.

Additionally you can use Magellan for the same purpose, which free, open source, still developed, and you can find a nice config that can be further customized in Amikit (which is also free).
 

Offline QuikSanz

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2015, 04:59:59 AM »
Quote from: amigakit;790592
This first release of MultiViewer is a very solid foundation which can be built upon going forward and integrates with some of A-EON's other applications.

The hardest part is done after months of development from the ground up by Andy: MultiViewer is created and will continue to be actively developed.  How many other applications exist in the Amiga world today that are still being maintained?

A-EON announced last year that software development would be the emphasis and these foundations are important to creating more progressive modern software for our Amigas.


Looks like a hint to me. Sounds a bit like "will be used in PPaint, Octamed and many other apps later" for an all around default.
 

Offline broadblues

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2015, 09:46:47 AM »
Quote from: kolla;790621
Does MultiViewer do the one thing MultiView doesn't do - does it handle streaming media, be it sound or video?


Sound and video would be directly supported by the datatype. So if you have a datatype that supports streaming it would stream, in practice there are few that do so (if any?) so the final answer is probably no, not at the moment, but it's not a limit of MultiViewer but rather of the underlying datatype.

Offline broadblues

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2015, 09:54:12 AM »
Quote from: QuikSanz;790628
Looks like a hint to me. Sounds a bit like "will be used in PPaint, Octamed and many other apps later" for an all around default.


I think he's refering to the editor function, where you can open the current document in your prefered editor, for images the default is PPaint, but that is configurable via the tooltype to any app (SketchBlock for example :-)) a couple of example alternatives are store in the initial tooltypes as disabaled tooltypes.

The idea is to allow intergration, not enforce it!

Offline kamelito

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2015, 10:31:50 AM »
@BroadBlues,

So the logical next step is to develop new datatypes isn't it?
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Offline chris

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2015, 10:39:23 AM »
Quote from: broadblues;790633
Sound and video would be directly supported by the datatype. So if you have a datatype that supports streaming it would stream, in practice there are few that do so (if any?) so the final answer is probably no, not at the moment, but it's not a limit of MultiViewer but rather of the underlying datatype.


The MP3 datatype supports streaming.  Unfortunately this makes it entirely useless for using as a loader, as the two are mutually exclusive.

All the animation datatypes stream - it's basically enforced for those.
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Offline kolla

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2015, 09:41:22 PM »
As far as I recall, multiview and/or the datatype loader requires an EOF before they will display anything.
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Offline kolla

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2015, 09:42:37 PM »
Quote from: chris;790638
The MP3 datatype supports streaming.  Unfortunately this makes it entirely useless for using as a loader, as the two are mutually exclusive.

All the animation datatypes stream - it's basically enforced for those.


Hm, no. MultiView will load the entire animation file before playing it.
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Offline kolla

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2015, 09:45:00 PM »
Quote from: broadblues;790634
I think he's refering to the editor function, where you can open the current document in your prefered editor, for images the default is PPaint, but that is configurable via the tooltype to any app (SketchBlock for example :-)) a couple of example alternatives are store in the initial tooltypes as disabaled tooltypes.

The idea is to allow intergration, not enforce it!


How do you specify disabled default tool as a tooltype?
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Offline broadblues

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2015, 01:17:26 AM »
Quote from: kolla;790670
How do you specify disabled default tool as a tooltype?


I'm not sure if you read that correctly. I'm refering to the editing tool specified like so:

EDITPICTURE=Appdir:PPView "%s"
(EDITPICTURE=Appdir:SketchBlock "%s")
(EDITPICTURE=Appdir:ImageFX "%s")

The alternative examples are disabled by brackets.

Offline Tenacious

Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2015, 04:32:25 AM »
It is outstanding that Amiga Classic was included!  How many times have things been updated and improved, BUT, only for NG Amigas?  I'm impressed.

Is there a minimum spec (CPU, memory, RTG, etc) for Multiviewer or will it even run on humble classic machines (too much to hope for?)?  :)

Have there been any optimizations for speed over the old Multiview?  OTOH, the speed of the original was mostly dependent upon the speed of the datatype.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2015, 04:44:06 AM by Tenacious »