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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

A couple interesting Mac articles...
« on: January 30, 2014, 10:59:07 PM »
Not a Mac fan at all, but I found this article interesting, also this video, just thought I'd share.  Description of the video is found about halfway down in the comments on the first page of the article.

Enjoy!  ...(or not, LOL)


http://www.zdnet.com/after-30-years-why-did-the-mac-never-break-into-big-business-7000025743/?s_cid=e539&ttag=e539

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRKzJMS6Uw
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Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 05:01:57 AM »
I will have to say that I pretty much agree with most of the points in that ZDNet article.

We have a large number of OS X machines where I work. They are a never ceasing source of trouble for anyone stuck with supporting them in some way.
 

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Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 06:57:59 AM »
"Some of them even share the same computer"   ;)

Well I mostly agree, and I must say I was not to impressed with the OS demonstration from 1995 but at least it had user accounts :)

I can admit I really do not like Apple at all, the only apple I use is for MorphOS and the new Apple PC's today offer me nothing I need at all, they are just underpowered and overpriced.
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Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2014, 07:06:23 AM »
And multitasking!
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Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 08:25:46 AM »
Cant disagree on any of the points he puts forward. But he misses  a key one. Corporate NOS works off Microsoft, at the moment. Network domain, group policy, security controls, Certificate management all works out of the box in the corporate world. So the desktop SOE/MOE just works in that microcosm. Add a Mac and you have a management and maintenance exception. Which equals $. A business case that has greatest return will always gain approval over a lesser one. That in my view is why Macs won't get a look in except as an exception or perhaps in smaller green fields sites. Don't get me wrong I've owned a Mac and have supported them before and the are great end user machines but the security controls and monitoring requirements of the corporate world have become so complicated and moved so far ahead. Well most Amigans will understand that conundrum. Catchup is nigh on impossible. Unless the microcosm changes.

Cloud and BYO opens up the opportunity for Mac, IOS and Android to become more prevalent but the move of the corporate NOS microcosm would take years. 2-3 investment lifecycles at least. Or 6-9 years.

That in my view is the reason Mac hasn't broken in. Very little to do with the end user device itself.
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Offline smerf

Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 07:01:13 PM »
Mac OS trying to challenge Windows is like a VW on train tracks trying to halt a train. Try to think of one thing Windows can not do today that any other computer can. When I think of why I bought an Amiga and compare it to today's PC, the PC has accomplished everything I bought my Amiga for back when it first came out and does a heck of a lot more. BTW did Apple computers ever get rid of that dull black and white screen or are they still back in the dark ages?
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OK, why does the PC out do the Macs in the business world, one reason Cost.
In our company we bought over 2000 computers, and have various old models still in use, we have a C64 that still is used to run a program on a old stabilization platform for air craft, and we have PC's still running from the original big blue's 8088 machines to the newest on the market. We have tried the Apples but they have all failed within the first 10 years of use, which cost the company more money to transfer over programs to the PC machines to keep the old equipment running. One of the things we found really bad about Apples old machines is the cost to repair them. If you think finding someone to repair an old Amiga is bad and expensive, try to get someone to repair an old Apple or Mac machine. Needless to say when an Apple product dies, we just throw it away and replace it with a PC, it is less costly to reprogram then repair and reuse an old Apple product.
Through much use we have found it much more expensive to use an Apple product.
Our newest purchase was a $18,000 Apple computer for video work, about 2 years ago, we now have replaced it with a $7000 PC that far exceeds what that Apple can do.
To put it quite bluntly when I got called down to look at the Apple, I laughed and told them that they would be dropping it in about 2 years, so we never did justify the cost of that beast.

Another reason I hate Apple products, the computers, software, parts, and repair are more expensive then the Amiga which is by all means an antique.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 07:31:14 PM »
Quote from: smerf;758276
we have a C64 that still is used to run a program on a old stabilization platform for air craft

Ha, great post, thanks for sharing! :D
 
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Offline Iggy

Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 10:19:24 PM »
>Another reason I hate Apple products, the computers, software, parts,  and repair are more expensive then the Amiga which is by all means an  antique.

Is anything as expensive as Amiga parts?
I don't think so.
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Offline Technoweenie

Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2014, 02:22:59 AM »
For those technically astute at any Silicon Valley company the Mac is the system of choice.  At Facebook, Google, Twitter and others using a Windows machine is a joke and discussing using an Amiga is a recipe for ridicule.  Everyone has preferences but arguing that Macs don't belong in the enterprise is an ignorant enterprise.
 

Offline persia

Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 02:49:17 AM »
I'm working with a school to develop a system where they can do attendance, grades and the like directly from an iPad.  Every teacher will be issued an iPad and it will be their primary computer for school related actives.
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Offline Ral-Clan

Re: A couple interesting Mac articles...
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2014, 02:27:06 PM »
Cracked a smile when I saw the picture of the "Windows 95 = Mac 89" button at the beginning of that YouTube video.

Made me think: Windows 95 = Mac 89 = Amiga 85

Multitasking a new feature on Mac OS Copland in 1995?  Really?

I think Mac is great - and it MacOS has clearly surpassed the Amiga nowadays, but trying to make multitasking sound like a groundbreaking feature in 1995?
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