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Offline vox

X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« on: October 26, 2013, 03:19:04 AM »
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1310106-AR-AMIGAONE027#overview_table

Some of you promised to bench G5 and give us comparison
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Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2013, 03:40:29 AM »
This can only be an invitation for a flame war. Why did you make this thread when you know what is going to happen?
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Offline ferrellsl

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2013, 04:17:32 AM »
Quote from: vox;751140
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1310106-AR-AMIGAONE027#overview_table

Some of you promised to bench G5 and give us comparison


I'd like to see them as well.  The fact that they're not being provided leads me to believe that the G5 outperforms the X1000 considerably and at 1/10 the price.
 

Offline vox

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2013, 04:18:40 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;751141
This can only be an invitation for a flame war. Why did you make this thread when you know what is going to happen?

Its just a test result I have already discussed with other Linux users, and I am well aware of its limits and strong sides. But I have really promised I will do Linux tests and publish them once I get X1000 to amiga.org users.

Please be civic in any discussion. After all its just technology.
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Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2013, 04:20:25 AM »
Quote from: ferrellsl;751144
I'd like to see them as well.  The fact that they're not being provided leads me to believe that the G5 outperforms the X1000 considerably and at 1/10 the price.

I haven`t seen Phoronix test on G5 either.

G5 is full desktop CPU, not power efficient (X1000 does this at 7W) and core was to develop to 4 cores and above 2GHz (PA Semi) but Apple just used engeeners and anyway left PPC alliance so it never happened. Contrary, G5 in Macs is quite mature product at its best.
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Offline AmigaClassicRule

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2013, 04:27:41 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;751141
This can only be an invitation for a flame war. Why did you make this thread when you know what is going to happen?


 

Offline vox

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2013, 07:46:28 AM »
Quote from: AmigaClassicRule;751147

No flame, no need for popcorns yet. Rage mem bench is here
but its less favorable - no 3D, no 2nd core and so on, but shows
fast memory transfers. Alongside the thread are rage mem results
for all other OS4 systems.

Last info I can give you is Linux Hardinfo benchmark


Summary
Computer

ProcessorPowerPC PA6T, altivec supported (1800.00MHz)
Memory4021MB (397MB used)
Operating SystemUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS
Date/TimeThu 10 Oct 2013 21:50:32 CEST
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Operating SystemVersionKernelLinux 3.9.8X1000 (ppc64)Compiled#1 SMP Sun Jun 30 19:32:30 IST 2013C
LibraryUnknownDefault C CompilerGNU C Compiler version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5)DistributionUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS

Benchmarks

CPU BlowfishCPU

 BlowfishThis Machine1800 MHz61.324Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz(null)26.1876862PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz)(null)172.816713CPU

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 FibonacciCPU FibonacciThis Machine1800 MHz15.062Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz(null)8.1375674PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz)(null)58.07682CPU
N-QueensCPU N-QueensThis Machine1800 MHz25.038FPU FFTFPU FFTThis Machine1800 MHz17.150
FPU RaytracingFPU RaytracingThis Machine1800 MHz37.071Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz(null)40.8816714PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz)(null)161.312647
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Offline Seiya

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2013, 05:13:44 PM »
Quote from: Kesa;751141
This can only be an invitation for a flame war. Why did you make this thread when you know what is going to happen?


no, this an invite to make benchmark within X1000 and G5 users.
It should very interesting to see X1000 compared with other similar systems

Offline vox

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2013, 09:20:31 PM »
Quote from: Seiya;751172
no, this an invite to make benchmark within X1000 and G5 users.
It should very interesting to see X1000 compared with other similar systems

Surely, Phornix and Ragemem are OK, other benchmarks, if we agree on them.

Anyway, tested lighter Linux (LXDE Debian 7.2 + Mint 11) with newer kernel (3.10.xx) on same machine and these are the results
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1310265-SO-AMIGAONEX04
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Offline Iggy

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2013, 09:21:01 PM »
Quote from: ferrellsl;751144
I'd like to see them as well.  The fact that they're not being provided leads me to believe that the G5 outperforms the X1000 considerably and at 1/10 the price.


For once we agree.
And this situation is likely to stay this way if the MorphOS team ever supports later G5s (like the Quad 2.5).
I'm not really interested in how an OS4 system compares to a MorphOS system.
I want to know how they compare to each other.
After all, what point is there in comparing to different platforms that share no common software?
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Offline vox

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2013, 10:26:29 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;751188
For once we agree.
I want to know how they compare to each other.
After all, what point is there in comparing to different platforms that share no common software?

They share Linux and 68k AmigaOS library.

But nevermind, Phoronix is great test suite and should be ported to AmigaOS and MorphOS. Until then only reliable tests are under Linux.

Or use, your own MOS tests, but you will not know e.g. how fast is G5 using both cores, or does more then 2GB RAM adds any performance.
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Offline Iggy

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2013, 10:52:34 PM »
Quote from: vox;751194
They share Linux and 68k AmigaOS library.

But nevermind, Phoronix is great test suite and should be ported to AmigaOS and MorphOS. Until then only reliable tests are under Linux.

Or use, your own MOS tests, but you will not know e.g. how fast is G5 using both cores, or does more then 2GB RAM adds any performance.


That is a valid point.
I have been so concerned with not ruffling the AOS supporters feathers that I glossed over that.
That and we were pretty sure the 970 held a pretty good lead early on.

The thing to remember is we are comparing equipment that is only available used to hardware still available new.
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Offline ferrellsl

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2013, 11:20:54 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;751188
For once we agree.
And this situation is likely to stay this way if the MorphOS team ever supports later G5s (like the Quad 2.5).
I'm not really interested in how an OS4 system compares to a MorphOS system.
I want to know how they compare to each other.
After all, what point is there in comparing to different platforms that share no common software?


We've actually been in violent agreement in the past as well, but I think you misunderstood me.  It's all good though.  I don't hold grudges!  LOL!
 

Offline magnetic

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2013, 01:15:15 AM »
Welll once you compare the price of g5 with X1000 test results dont matter lol

That being said i'm thrilled X1000 has alot of GNU Linux support, very important because if you spend $4k for an os4 box you're in trouble trying to get value just running os 4 because of lack of software.
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Offline vox

Re: X1000 results in Ubuntu 12.04 Phoronix
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2013, 01:20:24 AM »
Quote from: magnetic;751204
Welll once you compare the price of g5 with X1000 test results dont matter lol

That being said i'm thrilled X1000 has alot of GNU Linux support, very important because if you spend $4k for an os4 box you're in trouble trying to get value just running os 4 because of lack of software.

True, how much was G5 when it was nice new and MASS PRODUCED ...?, since I see new Mac with free OS will be as expensive as Nemo.

Well, Linux support is a great thing, I wish old Macs have it also. Because its open source software we depend on anyway.

No shame in Linux.
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