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Offline OlafS3

Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« on: August 08, 2013, 10:40:16 PM »
BSZili has thankfully taken over the task to port Magellan to AROS what will offer new chances. As a small thankyou we have created a small bounty for the port:

http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/66

Task is:
Port the main program, library, and modules
Fix endianness problems
Replace DOS packets with dos.library functions
Provide workarounds for or implement missing AROS functions where possible.

The sum is 150$. I have already donated 50$ and hope that others support it too. Thank you in advance.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 09:03:19 AM »
bump
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 10:44:57 AM »
Personally I think a better bounty would be to add the missing parts to AROS and ZUNE needed to enable Ambient to compile as it's much better than Magellan.

http://morphosambient.sourceforge.net
“Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” - Imam Ayatollah Sayyed  Ruhollah Khomeini
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 10:58:39 AM »
Quote from: nicholas;744094
Personally I think a better bounty would be to add the missing parts to AROS and ZUNE needed to enable Ambient to compile as it's much better than Magellan.

http://morphosambient.sourceforge.net

the version on sourceforge is old (as far as I understand it) and heavily dependent on closed source parts. Magellan is really opensource and it is much easier to adapt. The old SAS version works perfectly on AROS 68k. And ask yourself why "Ambient" never was ported to AROS and expecially AmigaOS.
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 11:01:22 AM »
Quote from: nicholas;744094
Personally I think a better bounty would be to add the missing parts to AROS and ZUNE needed to enable Ambient to compile as it's much better than Magellan.

http://morphosambient.sourceforge.net

I personal do not know Ambient but at least the descriptions. Magellan is very configurable and has at least most if not all functionality so I do not see what advantage Ambient port (except much more work needed) would have.
 

Offline smf

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2013, 11:37:39 AM »
Quote from: nicholas;744094
Personally I think a better bounty would be to add the missing parts to AROS and ZUNE needed to enable Ambient to compile as it's much better than Magellan.

http://morphosambient.sourceforge.net



Personally i think your totaly wrong! :) This is the way to go.
 

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Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2013, 11:39:39 AM »
Frew in a few $ for the cause :) Just saw that paypal has my old last name and to change it I have to do a photo copy of any kind of ID and send em :/ Well the donation will show my not curent name then ^^
« Last Edit: August 09, 2013, 11:42:50 AM by som99 »
 

Offline nicholas

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2013, 11:49:43 AM »
Quote from: OlafS3;744096
the version on sourceforge is old (as far as I understand it) and heavily dependent on closed source parts. Magellan is really opensource and it is much easier to adapt. The old SAS version works perfectly on AROS 68k. And ask yourself why "Ambient" never was ported to AROS and expecially AmigaOS.


Because AROS/ZUNE and Amiga OS/MUI3.8 are missing things that Ambient requires.

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http://sourceforge.net/projects/morphosambient/
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Offline nicholas

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2013, 11:52:38 AM »
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Personally i think your totaly wrong! :) This is the way to go.


Different strokes for different folks. :)

It will never replace Wanderer as the default on AROS x86 and i doubt it will replace Workbook as the default on AROS 68k either.
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Offline OlafS3

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2013, 11:54:32 AM »
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Different strokes for different folks. :)

It will never replace Wanderer as the default on AROS x86 and i doubt it will replace Workbook as the default on AROS 68k either.

Do you want to make a bet with me? :-)
 

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Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2013, 11:56:40 AM »
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Frew in a few $ for the cause :) Just saw that paypal has my old last name and to change it I have to do a photo copy of any kind of ID and send em :/ Well the donation will show my not curent name then ^^


My wife has the same problem with PayPal too.

Apparently a marriage certificate isn't enough proof! Lol
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Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2013, 11:57:40 AM »
Quote from: OlafS3;744108
Do you want to make a bet with me? :-)


It's GPL is it not?
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Offline OlafS3

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2013, 12:02:47 PM »
Quote from: nicholas;744105
Because AROS/ZUNE and Amiga OS/MUI3.8 are missing things that Ambient requires.



http://sourceforge.net/projects/morphosambient/

I do not want to start a "political" discussion about MorphOS.

Look at the change-logs of MorphOS, lots of new classes and all closed source. And both Ambient and f.e. OWB depend on them. You know how long it already needs to update Zune to MUI3.8., now imagine AROS trying to compete with MorphOS on base of closed source components. We need real opensource components, and "real" means for me including all dependencies. That is not the case for Ambient and will never happen. I already said that the base functionality from both Ambient and Magellan is very similar (I cannot compare in detail because I do not own MorphOS). So from my side to try to port Ambient is a waste of time. In AROS camp there are limited resources so it should be concentrated on where it makes most sense.
 

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Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2013, 12:03:24 PM »
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My wife has the same problem with PayPal too.

Apparently a marriage certificate isn't enough proof! Lol


Apparently not, damn me for taking her last name ;)
 

Offline OlafS3

Re: Bounty to port Magellan to AROS
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2013, 12:04:05 PM »
all dependencies (LIBS, MUI-Classes) are opensource too? Yes or No?