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Offline Lord Aga

Regarding Zac McKracken and Maniac Mansion.... what comes first timelinewise ?
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Offline XDelusion

Maniac Mansion came out in 87, Zac in 88.


Hmmm, can't seem to load up Maniac Mansion.nes in ScummVM. What gives?
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Offline Lord Aga

Thanx :) So I should first finish Maniac.
Pretty hard though, didn't manage to do it many years ago.
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Offline commodorejohn

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Please do, I'd love to see the prototype supported as well, if not for historical reasons.
:/ I looked it up in the feature-request list, and aggravatingly, Quietust refuses to do it, since the prototype can't be had legally (as if anyone playing the released version is so likely to have bought a NES copier and stuck their cartridge in it, instead of just downloading it from a ROM site!) I recompiled it to assume it's the prototype if it fails the CRC check, but it's complaining about resources being the wrong length and in the wrong place, and I don't know enough about SCUMM to build an index for it...
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I thought scummvm was just an emulator for the scumm interpreter. I have never known scummvm to run NES games. If you have a NES Rom then surely the best way to run it would be through a NES emulator. And I know prototype roms can be played with any if them.

Offline commodorejohn

Yes, you can run it through an emulator, but then you have to use the D-pad to move the cursor, which is a pain. ScummVM can run the SCUMM data files if you extract them from the ROM, but the extractor utility uses one of several built-in indices for the game resources, corresponding to the different-language releases of the NES version. It doesn't support the prototype, and Quietust apparently refuses to add support. The source is available, and if I knew enough about SCUMM I could just construct an additional index, but I don't.
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Offline XDelusion

Agh ha, I have no need to fire it up then. I presumed they somehow managed to add Mouse support to the old NES version.

Back to Maniac Mansion Deluxe I go. ;)
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Ah fair enough. I thought the NES version was just a complete rework I didn't know that the scumm stuff was in there.

Offline commodorejohn

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Agh ha, I have no need to fire it up then. I  presumed they somehow managed to add Mouse support to the old NES  version.
They did. It runs the NES version, complete with customized graphics and  music, but it has mouse support. It's quite nice, except for the  censorship.

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Ah fair enough. I thought the NES version was just a complete rework I didn't know that the scumm stuff was in there.
Yep. The Japan-only Famicom version uses a different engine, but it's crappy anyway so who cares.
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Never noticed the Famicom version. It's got a completely different look to it.

Offline commodorejohn

Hardcore Gaming 101 compares it to the comic strip Cathy; I can't really disagree with that assessment :lol:
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Offline XDelusion

Awesome, it excites me to think that Japanese players were experiencing American classics back then! :)

Strange port indeed!!!!
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Offline XDelusion

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Hardcore Gaming 101 compares it to the comic strip Cathy; I can't really disagree with that assessment :lol:


I just read the review. I take back my previous comment. Too bad for the Japanese, they didn't get to experience it in near it's full glory. :(
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Offline XDelusion

Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline commodorejohn

Nope, those are from the NES version.
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