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Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: Android really is the new Windows
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2012, 02:17:05 AM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;715120
Yes, and so did Coca-Cola. Yet companies keep failing, again and again, to learn the lesson that New Coke taught us: all the focus grouping in the world won't help you if you screw around with what people are comfortable with and they don't like it.


But sometimes just sitting down on your turf, doing nothing, can mean that you are left behind in evolution, when everyone else moves on to something new. Some lead, others follow, some don't bother with anything. Only dead fish floats down-stream. Yada yada. :)

I can easily see and understand the USP's of Metro, even for desktop. Personally, I don't really like it though, but I actually think most people will get used to and actually like this feature.

Again - we'll see how things fold...

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Offline commodorejohn

Re: Android really is the new Windows
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2012, 03:00:08 AM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;715124
But sometimes just sitting down on your turf, doing nothing, can mean that you are left behind in evolution, when everyone else moves on to something new. Some lead, others follow, some don't bother with anything. Only dead fish floats down-stream. Yada yada.
Yes, they do like to think like that, because that's what gets so-and-so's department's budget justified for the next quarter so that it doesn't get slashed. But that has zero relevance to what the consumer thinks. Again, Coca-Cola probably had every reason to think that it wouldn't hurt to shake things up, might drum up some new interest and help them regain the ground they'd lost to Pepsi. That actually makes perfectly decent sense from a business standpoint, which is more than can be said for Microsoft's "screw around with everything that was already fine in an attempt to leverage our monolithic desktop success as a way to break into the mobile market we've absolutely failed to crack with every previous attempt, and remove as many legacy features as we can get away with in an attempt to herd customers onto the new model so we can get a cut from third-party developers" approach to Windows 8. And just like Microsoft claims to have, they meticulously focus-tested the new product and didn't proceed until they'd determined that the testees loved it.

None of that saved their bacon. The simple fact of of the matter is that, no matter how you try, in the end you cannot manufacture a customer to fit your product. If people don't like it, they don't like it, and that's true even if the only reason they don't like it is because it's replacing something they were familiar with. And the more you try to push it on them, the less successful you'll be. Microsoft of all people should know that; they got a lesson in it not six years ago, with Vista. And people still remember that; now customers and OEMs alike know that they can make Redmond pay attention, if they're stubborn enough.

For all that they still dominate desktop computing, Microsoft has less power over their customers now than they did when ME was the supposed new hotness that, in reality, didn't live up to its predecessors. Yet they act like this is even more of an inevitability.

Time will tell where it all goes from here; but if the Windows user base decides that they don't want this, Microsoft is going to have a hell of a reality check waiting for them.
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Offline NovaCoder

Re: Android really is the new Windows
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2012, 03:12:41 AM »
The real question is how much damage will MS do to their desktop market share to try and gain market share in the tablet/mobile market.
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Offline darkage

Re: Android really is the new Windows
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2012, 03:23:58 AM »
Well it will make this guy happy - http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php
 

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Re: Android really is the new Windows
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2012, 03:32:06 AM »
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actually you can:  http://www.android-x86.org/

but what makes me laugh really if that vendors abandon a hardware model almost instantly. I've been watching the market and what friends bought... the large majority of phones are not receiving upgrades. Buy a model, and that's the Android version you will be stuck with. Even for the Amiga you could at least buy the kickstart ROM when needed.

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You're talking apples and oranges, though.  The first "smartphone" I had was an awful device (actually for the first six months it was fine, then I made the mistake of putting apps on it), the Samsung Intercept.  My wife still has hers and it's a practically crippled little thing with little RAM and an anemic SOC.  Even though you can expand it's "storage" to 32gb, there are some apps and some updates that cannot be put on the SD Card, so newer updates take up more and more room, leaving less memory for the OS to use.

What that is, in analogue to PCs, is like buying a 386SX-16 and feeling "abandoned" because you can't keep updating it year after year.  Android 4.x doesn't run on the Intercept because it can't - just like Windows NT4 (or 2000, or XP) can't run on that 386.  The phone I replaced it with, an HTC Evo V 3d, was originally released with Android 2.3 but by the time I bought a model had been updated to 4.0, and when I unboxed it and booted it up, it updated again.  But, I'm sure, someday the phone won't get a new build of Android - because it will be out of spec.
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