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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2012, 05:56:07 PM »
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If you want to use PSX joypad as a mouse just get the PSX-Amiga converter from kipper2k http://kipper2k.com/amigaforsale/
Works great, just press "Select", mouse mode, press "Select" again, Joystick mode.


Oh thank you, I would love to have one, ill contact him when I have time, would be nice to disect one and see if I could make one for the Dreamcast controller :)

Only three hours of work left so soon home to play again with my hot iron, gotta order more 9-pin connectors from ELFA :)
 

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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2012, 06:24:32 PM »
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If you want to use PSX joypad as a mouse just get the PSX-Amiga converter from kipper2k http://kipper2k.com/amigaforsale/
Works great, just press "Select", mouse mode, press "Select" again, Joystick mode.

Neat enough!  But you can't use both at once... and you would have to swap it from Port 1 to Port 0 as well.
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2012, 08:45:38 PM »
You could get 2 of them :)

The analog stick in joystick mode is used as a directional pad, but it would be nice if we could use second analog stick as a mouse. I bet is possible.
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2012, 02:45:15 AM »
Well time ran away today, all I managed to do today was to mod the mega drive controller I got today. Damn that D-Pad is utter crap.

Here is the filthy little thing.


It's inners are super easy to work with at least :)


Remove the white button 2 wire, ill keep if if I feel like restoring the controller.
Then just move the brown wire from UP to button 2.
Then just solder a switch between up and button 2 and your done.



Then I made a hole for the switch in the upper half of the case.


Here is how it looks completed, quite ok :)

 

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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2012, 04:42:31 AM »
You can get Playstation adapters which emulate the CD32 pad and the mouse at the same time, let you program combos, use one analogue stick as a digital joystick and the other as a mouse, there's not much they can't do (except magically emulate a keyboard). AmigaManiac sells the adapters with Paul Willingham's code here - http://www.amigamaniac.com/psx2db9.html

One adapter that would be welcome would be a Sega Phaser adapter to us in the Amiga light gun games. They have all been patched with WHDLoad to use the same gun interface, the adapter was discussed here  http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=21195

Love the look of the Master System pad mod!
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2012, 03:30:50 PM »
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You can get Playstation adapters which emulate the CD32 pad and the mouse at the same time, let you program combos, use one analogue stick as a digital joystick and the other as a mouse, there's not much they can't do (except magically emulate a keyboard). AmigaManiac sells the adapters with Paul Willingham's code here - http://www.amigamaniac.com/psx2db9.html

So this has two 9-pin outputs, right?  There isn't a picture and the page doesn't seem to indicate that.

I have the Amiga light gun, sadly it isn't any use on my LCD screen :( I have wondered if it would be possible to do something clever with a web cam.  I programmed a little light gun target practice app back in the day, it's very simple, but it's based on timing so any adapter would need access to the video signal too, because it needs to trigger when the beam position passes in front of the gun.
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2012, 06:33:44 PM »
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Hired Guns uses a modified 3 or 6 button pad


How does HG use the extra buttons ? What are they for ?
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2012, 09:49:54 PM »
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So this has two 9-pin outputs, right?  There isn't a picture and the page doesn't seem to indicate that.


These adapters only have one 9-pin plug, so they're not designed to control the mouse and joystick at the same time unfortunately. I don't know if it's a limitation of the PIC chip they use but I did always think it'd be nice if a single chip could control both inputs, I had my own ideas about a kind of hub for the CD32 which lets you plug in Playstation pads, USB mouse, keyboard, and serial devices and would plug into the two 9pin ports and the Aux port. Just dreams though, I can't build hardware.

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How does HG use the extra buttons ? What are they for ?


I haven't tried it since I don't have a modified pad myself, but apparently when using the joypad option you don't need to use a mouse, and the buttons perform different actions. You can download the instruction manual here - http://psygnosisamiga.free.fr/games/hiredguns/instructions2.pdf
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2012, 08:37:46 PM »
Yup, it makes the inventory handling easier :)
Thanks for the manual !
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2012, 12:48:00 AM »
Got a shipment of new controllers to play with :D


Now Ill have something to work with :)
 

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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2012, 01:23:16 AM »
and...how many joysticks do you need...?:crazy:
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2012, 02:06:00 AM »
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and...how many joysticks do you need...?:crazy:


Hehe I mod them all then keep a few for myself the rest ill give to people in need of new gamepads for their Amigas :)
 

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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2012, 02:58:46 AM »
Recently I acquired a Vectrex system, love the vector graphics on it, but I only have one original controller.The original controllers are very expansive, so I need a cheaper route.
I need to get some SNES pads, so I can do a Vectrex mod on them. Requires a new PCB for it to work properly. I have the schematics and the only obstacle is the home made PCB.
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2012, 04:45:15 AM »
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Recently I acquired a Vectrex system, love the vector graphics on it, but I only have one original controller.The original controllers are very expansive, so I need a cheaper route.
I need to get some SNES pads, so I can do a Vectrex mod on them. Requires a new PCB for it to work properly. I have the schematics and the only obstacle is the home made PCB.

I don't think you need to make a new PCB, solder all lines by hand (as i did on the SNES lookalike PC controller but simpler if you are going to use an SNES controller) First just solder the buttons directly to corresponding pins then simply explained just solder the 5v to up/down/left right then just use resistors to get the 3,4v for up and right.
The left an down is a tiny bit more difficult on the Vectrex, you have to use an resistor and an voltage regulator to get the negative volatage, it's easy to get your hands on some IC 7905 regulators and it's output is steady enough for the Vectrex and paired with a resistor I see no reason why it should not work.

I see no reason why you could not fit this into a SNES gamepad so no need to make your own PCB.

I would offer to build you one, but I don't like to build anything for a system I don't own to test on before shipping off :/

EDIT: Be sure to use a multimeter BEFORE testing your creation on your vectrex to avoid destroying it :)

PS: im off to bed :)
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Re: Simple Genesis/Megadrive gamepad button jump mod.
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2012, 06:46:24 AM »
Using up for accelerate/jump on Amiga games is bad game design. Amiga has two fire button capability.