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Offline TheMud

Building A Website
« on: May 29, 2012, 12:03:52 AM »
Ok. Maybe this is a stupod question. But if you dont ask you'll never know :-)

Is it possible to build complete websites with the Amiga ? My A-4000 is bored and I want to let it work a little again. Could I make a site like this I have made a complete game site before. But on my make with Dreamweaver - Thats easy... :-/ But want to program a complete site now.

Is there flash support for Amiga ? Or something that lets flash work ?
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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 12:24:23 AM »
You can create websites with pen and paper, or any text editor.
 

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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 12:34:45 AM »
You can create a site using just a basic text editor and some knowledge of html and such. Many people ditch dreamweaver in favour of this method. Simply save any fine as .html .php or what ever you want.

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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 12:55:14 AM »
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You can create websites with pen and paper, or any text editor.

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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 12:55:17 AM »
Creating the site with the Amiga is not a problem. Viewing it, however, may be. It is possible to make a site that looks fairly decent that is viewable on the Amiga as well as other places but it must be done using older website building techniques (ala without much or any JavaScript and little to no CSS).

That, of course, really limits modern web design in a big way. I just say this because it's what I do for a living. If you have a powerful enough Amiga, you can run things like NetSurf which will get you half way there with CSS support, but that browser has some serious issues in and of itself.

So short answer is yes. Long answer is above.
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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 12:57:57 AM »
Good point. Maybe you should consult with Karlos. I think he did a version of this website designed to be used by classic miggies.
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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 01:01:27 AM »
As they say, testing's going to be a bigger problem than development. (You shouldn't do web development with layout tools anyway, it encourages bloat and layout-centric design. But then, I'm kind of a cranky old man when it comes to web design anyway.) A solid programmer's text editor and FTP client will do perfectly fine for authoring and uploading.
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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 01:21:23 AM »
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That site you just posted there... Well - gave me the best idea ever.

Thanx a lot sir :-D
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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 01:59:18 AM »
My intention was to mock Piru but i'm glad to have helped you out.
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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 04:19:59 AM »
I'm a professional web master. Here's a site i did that works on Amiga's and was done on an Amiga 1200. It was quite a few years ago. http://www.trep4.com/amicheats/

It was done entirely in html using Ced. The ability to do search and replace across all the files at once was a major sanity saver in updating the site.

There's no reason it couldn't be done again on an A1200 with Ced. However, i'd do it with php pulling the content from a mySQL database.
 

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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 05:02:00 AM »
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You can create a site using just a basic text editor and some knowledge of html and such. Many people ditch dreamweaver in favour of this method. Simply save any fine as .html .php or what ever you want.


C'mon.  Nobody in their right mind is going to ditch Dreamweaver to create websites strictly with a text editor, unless they have masochistic tendencies *and* far too much free time on their hands.
 

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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 05:24:02 AM »
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C'mon.  Nobody in their right mind is going to ditch Dreamweaver to create websites strictly with a text editor, unless they have masochistic tendencies *and* far too much free time on their hands.
My site was made in probably 40 hours in Programmer's Notepad with QuickPHP for script testing and different versions of Firefox for CSS testing, and that's counting the time I spent on W3Schools learning CSS. I'll lay a six-pack on the line that says that it comes in lighter than an equivalent site built in any layout tool you care to name, and another if it should, as I suspect, also be more broadly compatible.
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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2012, 05:57:44 AM »
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C'mon.  Nobody in their right mind is going to ditch Dreamweaver to create websites strictly with a text editor, unless they have masochistic tendencies *and* far too much free time on their hands.

Well, i am almost exclusively using notepad++ and filezilla (with an help from phtoshop/fireworks for image slicing) with check/retouch in firefox/firebug since am doing PHP development, and follow a table-less approach...

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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2012, 07:02:17 AM »
I work with a team of UI Engineers for Netflix and not one of us would be caught dead using a tool like Dreamweaver. Lol, WYSIWYG editors are really for those people who are at the beginning to low intermediate level of web development experience.

I usually use something like Intype or TextMate or IntelliJ if I have to integrate with Java. But the CSS, HTML and JavaScript needs no command line completion by any UX engineer I've met in my career path in the last 3-5 years or so.

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Re: Building A Website
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2012, 07:07:41 AM »
Yeah, nobody really uses tables if they can help it these days. Thats the main reason I have so much trouble even contemplating writing a site that's Amiga-pretty. That and not being able to use CSS.

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Well, i am almost exclusively using notepad++ and filezilla (with an help from phtoshop/fireworks for image slicing) with check/retouch in firefox/firebug since am doing PHP development, and follow a table-less approach...

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