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Offline Retrofan

Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« on: May 27, 2012, 11:46:33 PM »
Well, I'm making my A500/Atx Psu, and I've found an Atx one with the perfect measures and specs: http://www.ebay.es/itm/130559661001?...84.m1439.l2649 , SEASONIC-ATX-PSU-MODEL-SS-250SFD
 
250 watts; 125mm x63mm (75with fan) x100mm, and
+3.3V@18A,+5V@21A,+12V@16A,-12V@0.8A,+5VSB@2.0A
 
So I'm going to resume how to mount it in a post
 
The holes for the Psu's boards are in the same place, so you don't have to cut anything in the A500 one (incredible). You'll see that the voltages are written in the board, even the cable for "Ps-on" that goes to ground for the Psu to run, so really, really easy. You can use this guide too: http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Amiga/am...iga_power_lead
 
Basically this image:
 

 
And usually (you have to test this with a multimeter):
 
Amiga Colour
ATX Colour
Voltage
 
RED
RED
+5V
 
BLACK
BLACK
0V/GND
 
BROWN
YELLOW
+12V
 
WHITE
BLUE
-12V
 
You can desolder the cables that you don't need from the board, but you need a powerful solder or desolder for that. I just cut them. Ground and shield go together to ground of the psu.
 
Before connecting it to the miggy I recommend to use the multimeter and test the voltages with the image above.
 
Well, finally you'll have to buy a thinner fan, as there's no room for the original. I've just bought this from China http://www.ebay.es/itm/251062116465?...84.m1439.l2649 , so I'll have to wait a month.
 
I'll be putting a voltmeter like I did in another (Gibs made it first).
 
The problem I've found is that my powerful miggy consumes a lot of power, so it wasn't booting shortening the cable even (well, it was booting, but only from the Idefix, not from the Scsi -yep, it has both to boot from-. I've got two more A1200's and they were booting without problems), and I didn't want to cut the cable as short as Amigakit's Psu. So finally I've used an Amiga power connector that I had from time ago (now you can buy it here) and I've connected it to a cable thicker than the original. It's black, but... it works . Listen... you don't have to use it if you aren't using as I am a BPPC, BVision, Delfina, DVD, 5 fans, Idefix, Subway..., Clockport expander, Acard and 2 Cf's adapters. The resistance of a given piece of wire depends of three factors: the length of the wire, the cross-sectional area of the wire, and the resistivity of the material composing the wire. The Amiga power connector isn't the best, and a long cable (2 meters the original) draws some power being so thin, so a thicker and shorter one has less resistance.
 
So this is how it is now (yes, it's so easy as you see here):
 

 
I forgot: You have to connect some (3) resistors to the 3.3volts line for this psu (250watts) to stabilize (thanks rkauer). I bought them here: http://www.ebay.es/itm/5W-Watt-5-Ohm...item5ae5fe42db 5W Watt 5 Ohm 5% Ceramic Cement Power Resistors
 
 
I asume all the responsibility. Ah, no.. lol... use this guide At your own risk , and careful with caps and old Psu's.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2012, 12:11:09 AM by Retrofan »
A1200, Lateral 32GB CF, internal Dvd, ACA 1230/56 with an MKII Fast ATA at 9,5Mb/s, another A1200 BPPC project in progress (more or less), and posting from my own/better C64x in my Tv using Hdmi.
 

Offline Retrofan

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2012, 10:47:50 PM »
Well, it seems I can't edit my post. So... Forget about the fan. The chinese one is a ****. Now I've bought this: http://www.ebay.es/itm/310275977662?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
 
And you must cut something if you want to use an 80x80x15mm fan like I do; you have to cut the supports where the Psu screws, leaving them with around 7-8 mm.
 
I've closed it. This is how it is:
 
 

 
 

 
After you connect the voltmeter (if you do), you have to adjust it with an screw using a multimeter. I've got 4,93 volts in the 5 volts line.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2012, 05:16:31 PM by Retrofan »
A1200, Lateral 32GB CF, internal Dvd, ACA 1230/56 with an MKII Fast ATA at 9,5Mb/s, another A1200 BPPC project in progress (more or less), and posting from my own/better C64x in my Tv using Hdmi.
 

Offline giZmo350

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2012, 11:14:21 PM »
Very Nice! Thanks for this!  :razz:
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, A590-4GBHDD, ROM Switch w/KS1.3/KS3.1
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5
 

Offline jsixis

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2012, 01:02:41 AM »
awesome, I may do this for my 1200
 

Offline smerf

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2012, 11:41:05 AM »
Quote from: gizmo350;696203
Very Nice! Thanks for this!  :razz:


Hi

@gizmo,

What are you a brown noser, you are suppossed to tell him that he just messed up an original Amiga power supply by using a PC power supply, and that the original did not have that blue display.

Now it would have been better if he did not  contaminate his Amiga with a PC supply by using a mac supply instead. Remember if we are going to change this to a mac board we have to think McDonalds.

Otherwise very nice.

Smerf
I have no idea what your talking about, so here is a doggy with a small pancake on his head.

MorphOS is a MAC done a little better
 

Offline giZmo350

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2012, 03:15:37 PM »
@Smerf
 
Eh, brown noser? No... Big Mac noser? Yes! :razz: I just didn't want Retrofan's inspiration spoil my project before it was done. Now THIS is a PSU! Fell free to modify in any way possible to violate any Amiga trademarks! LOL :banana:
 

 
 
 
Quote from: smerf;696570
Hi
 
@gizmo,
 
What are you a brown noser, you are suppossed to tell him that he just messed up an original Amiga power supply by using a PC power supply, and that the original did not have that blue display.
 
Now it would have been better if he did not contaminate his Amiga with a PC supply by using a mac supply instead. Remember if we are going to change this to a mac board we have to think McDonalds.
 
Otherwise very nice.
 
Smerf
A500: 2MB Chip, 8MB Fast, IndiECS, MiniMegi, A590-4GBHDD, ROM Switch w/KS1.3/KS3.1
 
A2000HD: 2MB Chip, 128MB Fast, P5:Blizz 2060@50MHz, PCD-50B/4GBCF, XSurf100, RapidRoad, IndiECS, Matze RTG, MiniMegi, CD-RW, SunRize AD516, WB3.9
 
A1200: 2MB Chip, 64MB Fast, 4GBCF, GVP Typhoon 030 @40MHz w/FPU, Subway USB, EasyNet Ethernet, Indi AGA MKI, FastATA MK-IV, Internal Slim CD/DVD-RW, WB3.5
 

Offline Retrograde

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2012, 08:23:02 PM »
Looks solid!
I for one LIKE the volt display! ;)

Once considered doing the same until I picked up a third-party Amiga PSU already good to drive a 1200 with some extra stuff. "Only" 100W though so who knows if it would drive your monster A500. :D
 

Offline Retrofan

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2012, 10:08:45 PM »
Quote from: smerf;696570
Hi
 
@gizmo,
 
What are you a brown noser, you are suppossed to tell him that he just messed up an original Amiga power supply by using a PC power supply, and that the original did not have that blue display.
 
Now it would have been better if he did not contaminate his Amiga with a PC supply by using a mac supply instead. Remember if we are going to change this to a mac board we have to think McDonalds.
 
Otherwise very nice.
 
Smerf

Hi. Thanks for your opinion. I woudn't use an ATX psu if the Amiga one could power on my miggy/s. I know, some will like it and some won't :banana:
But I can't use the original. BTW: Don't use a Compact Flash as hardrive if you want it like it was... and forget about the Indi.
 
In my 2nd post I was having to cut the supports, but now I'm going to try also with a 60x60x10 fan fwith more revs and more noisy, http://www.ebay.es/itm/370601614556?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 That's the one I use in my C=64 ITX. It's a lot more noisy, but has a good airflow, and if you use it you shoudn't cut anything.
 
Also in the photos there isn't the small board that the psu has and that goes connected to the switch, I added it later.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2012, 09:46:55 PM by Retrofan »
A1200, Lateral 32GB CF, internal Dvd, ACA 1230/56 with an MKII Fast ATA at 9,5Mb/s, another A1200 BPPC project in progress (more or less), and posting from my own/better C64x in my Tv using Hdmi.
 

Offline Fingers

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2012, 12:42:22 AM »
I like it, very neat result! :D

PZ.
 

Offline PanterHZ

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2012, 03:15:37 AM »
I have to agree with the others, it is a nice looking result, especially with the voltmeter.
 

Offline Retrofan

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2012, 12:27:40 PM »
Well, here it is completed. Sorry that I can't edit my posts, I wanted it to be in only one. If you want it, click here: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=819819&postcount=89
 
Now I've connected the small board, the PFC. For what I've read it helps to lose less power... but running the miggy I've got 4,9-5v, like before (edited).
 
I've taked also another cable to ground, from the pcb (top right corner) to the ground of the power cable.
 
Photo:
 
« Last Edit: July 11, 2012, 06:51:38 PM by Retrofan »
A1200, Lateral 32GB CF, internal Dvd, ACA 1230/56 with an MKII Fast ATA at 9,5Mb/s, another A1200 BPPC project in progress (more or less), and posting from my own/better C64x in my Tv using Hdmi.
 

Offline Retrofan

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 07:48:33 PM »
I've done also another version with the same psu. This delivers 5,20v before powering on the miggy, and exactly 5,00v with it running:



I prefer the other design, but I had an A500 psu case with the top broken, and it doesn't look bad.
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Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2012, 08:15:26 PM »
Oh how could I have missed this thread :O I just redid my PSU today in my A1200 thread, I prefer to solder the wires together instead of using those skrewthingys (what are they called in english?) Also why hot glue the fan?

I did a bit more modifies to my case tho, but in the end we both have the same results :) Nice work :)





Also a tip if using a fan in the top as you do on your other design, it wont get much air in movement, a tip that looks good is to cut out in the vents like this:


Try that and your PSU will run alot cooler and whatever PSU used 5v on the fan will be enough even if the original one is 12v (you will need to have intakes/outakes depending on fan direction also).

Also im using a smaller PSU, mATX one so no need to use thinner fan, im using a regular sized 80mm fan, it's a Fractal Design (Swedish company) silent fan in 12v/1400rpm it's @ 11 dB and im running it on 5v and I can't hear it at all :)
« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 09:20:38 PM by som99 »
 

Offline paul1981

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2012, 09:57:04 PM »
@ Retrofan

Nice work. That fan that's hot glued in though would do a better job if there was a gap of at least 3mm between case vents and fan.
I've always wanted a volt meter on my PSU or on my Amiga itself, but I'd have a real one with the needle... proper oLdSkOoL. LOL
 

Offline Retrofan

Re: Atx Psu mounting guide in a post
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2012, 10:43:51 PM »
I've done also another version with the same psu (another I bought). This delivers 5,20v without anything connected, and exactly 5,00v with the miggy running:



I prefer the other design, but I had an A500 case with the top broken, and it doesn't look bad.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 10:51:14 PM by Retrofan »
A1200, Lateral 32GB CF, internal Dvd, ACA 1230/56 with an MKII Fast ATA at 9,5Mb/s, another A1200 BPPC project in progress (more or less), and posting from my own/better C64x in my Tv using Hdmi.