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Offline x303

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2012, 09:52:58 PM »
Well if you connect your korg or the xr 20 to the SB Live and run  MIDI-OX you should see easily if the SB has a working midi interface.
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2012, 09:58:29 PM »
Quote from: x303;689682
Well if you connect your korg or the xr 20 to the SB Live and run  MIDI-OX you should see easily if the SB has a working midi interface.


If I were at home right now, I'd do just that. :)

This is a trouble shooting process for this evening.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline x303

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2012, 09:59:24 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689680
And to make a killer device even cooler, I ordered a MIDI switch from London that allows me to use a switch to determine what my Input device will be, thus giving me a total of 2 In Ports!!!!
Real midi freaks use the KMS 30: http://m.matrixsynth.com/2011/07/korg-kms-30-sync-box.html :insane:
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2012, 10:03:10 PM »
Quote from: x303;689685
Real midi freaks use the KMS 30: http://m.matrixsynth.com/2011/07/korg-kms-30-sync-box.html :insane:


Pretty cool...

Where in the world do you buy them though, and how much?

Cause honestly, with that adapter I have for the Amiga, I was pretty damn content...

...but then again, one can never have too many options. ;)
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline x303

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2012, 10:23:41 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689689
Pretty cool...

Where in the world do you buy them though, and how much?
Bought it on the internet (no ebay) a few years ago for about €110.
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2012, 10:28:15 PM »
Quote from: x303;689693
Bought it on the internet (no ebay) a few years ago for about €110.


Holy crap! Not cheap hugh?

I looked on Ebay out of curiosity, but didn't see any. People must want to hang on to them.

Either way, this PC crap is only a temporary set up till my Amigas get recapped, then I'll happily be working with the hardware I love once again. And on that note, I'll be able to have pop and hiss free Amigas so I can start recording videos for other people how how to set up interesting MIDI networks on the Amiga. :)
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline x303

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2012, 10:59:57 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689696
I looked on Ebay out of curiosity, but didn't see any. People must want to hang on to them.

You can find one here, if it's not sold already: http://www.tonetweakers.com/usedgear.html

:eek:
 

Offline Ral-Clan

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2012, 12:43:07 AM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689680
Anyhow it is much better than being limited to one In port and one Out port as I will be in Windows.

The MIDI device sticks just out the back of the Amiga, is very sturdy, and has 1 In port, 2 Out ports, and 1 Out port that can also be switched to a Through Port. On top of that you can still plug in more devices behind this on. And to make a killer device even cooler, I ordered a MIDI switch from London that allows me to use a switch to determine what my Input device will be, thus giving me a total of 2 In Ports!!!!


Just use a MIDI merge box:
http://www.midisolutions.com/prodmrg.htm

Then you can have two (or four) MIDI inputs depending on which version of the box you buy...and you won't have to throw a switch.  All can be used at the same time.

I use a MIDI merge box on my MIDI input, and a four way MIDI splitter on my MIDI output.

But - you DO know MIDI devices can be daisy chained, eh?  Like two keyboard controllers can be daisy chained through each other, for instance (using the MIDI THROUGH) port.  Then it doesn't matter if your computer only has one MIDI input.
Music I've made using Amigas and other retro-instruments: http://theovoids.bandcamp.com
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2012, 01:43:03 AM »
Quote from: ral-clan;689718
Just use a MIDI merge box:
http://www.midisolutions.com/prodmrg.htm

Then you can have two (or four) MIDI inputs depending on which version of the box you buy...and you won't have to throw a switch.  All can be used at the same time.

I use a MIDI merge box on my MIDI input, and a four way MIDI splitter on my MIDI output.

But - you DO know MIDI devices can be daisy chained, eh?  Like two keyboard controllers can be daisy chained through each other, for instance (using the MIDI THROUGH) port.  Then it doesn't matter if your computer only has one MIDI input.


Ya, been figuring out the whole daisy chain, midi in/out/through clock in/out business over the past few days. Neat stuff really! It's amazing how far some of this hardware can be pushed!

So how exactly does this midi merge box work? Being able to do more than one input into my Amiga's one input port, but without a switch...

Well that's just hard to wrap my mind around! :)

P.s. Update the Live drivers, midi now works.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2012, 02:13:10 AM »
Thus far in today's episode of OctaMED S.S. 1.3c vs winUAE.


Midi key up and or volume sensing isn't as responsive as it would be on a real Amiga. Some times it gets it right, some times it tweaks out.

When highlighting a range, the hilighted area does not entirely highlight.

I've not tested to see if sample timing has been corrected yet.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline x303

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2012, 11:40:25 AM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689727
P.s. Update the Live drivers, midi now works.
Great :D
 

Offline Ral-Clan

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2012, 02:28:59 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689734
Thus far in today's episode of OctaMED S.S. 1.3c vs winUAE.


Midi key up and or volume sensing isn't as responsive as it would be on a real Amiga. Some times it gets it right, some times it tweaks out.

When highlighting a range, the hilighted area does not entirely highlight.

I've not tested to see if sample timing has been corrected yet.


Are you running OctaMED SS 1.3c in a native chipset mode or an RTG mode?  Try and RTG mode, like 640x480 RTG or 800x600 and see if it helps.
Music I've made using Amigas and other retro-instruments: http://theovoids.bandcamp.com
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2012, 03:07:26 PM »
Quote from: ral-clan;689820
Are you running OctaMED SS 1.3c in a native chipset mode or an RTG mode?  Try and RTG mode, like 640x480 RTG or 800x600 and see if it helps.


Alright, will try when I get home.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline x303

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2012, 11:33:16 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689828
Alright, will try when I get home.
So, does it work ?
 

Offline bbond007

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2012, 03:09:01 AM »
Quote from: BinoX;689610
Isn't the connector on the back on an SB live just a gameport? Didn't they strip out the midi support?

I could be thinking of a different sound card though...

I don't know if you can strip out MIDI support from a PC sound card because some of the later (pre-usb) joysticks actually use the MIDI protocol to communicate with the joystick. For example the Sidewinder FF.

It was actually very clever because to read pc joystick you hard to time the discharge rate of a capacitor (repeatedly)  which is really expensive as far as CPU...
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