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Offline XDelusion

WinUAE: MIDI Port where art thou?
« on: April 19, 2012, 05:17:41 PM »
So I own Amiga Forever 2012, I bought one of those Amikit USB things, and I figured,"hey, as much as I hate the idea of using a virtual Amiga under Windows, I might as well make my money of use and dedicate a machine to WinUAE and Amikit."

So here I am, and my primary use is to control my midi instruments via the MIDI port on my sound card, while my Amigas are away have their caps replaced.

As fate would have it, I can not seem to control midi via Amithlon, or at least no one has been kind enough to drop by my thread and show me the way, so I thought that WinUAE would be my savior, but noooooooo....

I can go into the configuration menu, I can see the MIDI option, but it is all greyed out, won't even let me touch it.

How do I get it to not be all greyed out, and on top of that how do I get it to recognize the MIDI connector on the back of my SB live?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 09:34:17 PM by XDelusion »
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Offline BinoX

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 05:23:59 PM »
Isn't the connector on the back on an SB live just a gameport? Didn't they strip out the midi support?

I could be thinking of a different sound card though...
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Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2012, 05:27:55 PM »
Quote from: BinoX;689610
Isn't the connector on the back on an SB live just a gameport? Didn't they strip out the midi support?

I could be thinking of a different sound card though...


I can't imagine them stripping out the MIDI aspect of the card...

I could be wrong though, but that would totally bumb me out. And it would mean I bought a $25 cable adapter for nothing.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline Forcie

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 05:33:37 PM »
Is your SB Live Gameport installed properly as a MPU-401 compatible device in Windows? You might have to look for drivers for that.
And btw, if you are using Windows 7 or Vista, you are out of luck. Microsoft killed support for MIDI/Gameports from Vista and onwards. You would have to get an USB-MIDI dongle, a Firewire interface with MIDI ports, or some other device like that. Which is kind of sad, because gameports usually have much less MIDI latency than the average USB dongle.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 05:38:05 PM by Forcie »
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 05:38:43 PM »
Quote from: Forcie;689612
Is your SB Live Gameport installed properly as a MPU-401 compatible device in Windows? You might have to look for drivers for that.
And btw, if you are using Windows 7 or Vista, you are out of luck. Microsoft killed support for MIDI/Gameports from Vista and onwards.



No I'm using MicroXP.

I'll try some drivers off the web as opposed to what came with Windows.


but you know how that goes. You download 20 drivers that claim to be what you are looking for, and only 1 of them work. :)
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Offline x303

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 07:14:24 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689614
You download 20 drivers that claim to be what you are looking for, and only 1 of them work. :)
Have you tried this one ? http://www.asio4all.com/
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 07:42:58 PM »
Quote from: x303;689631
Have you tried this one ? http://www.asio4all.com/


Curious
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Offline Ral-Clan

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 07:44:42 PM »
Make sure UAE is not running (i.e. an emulation is not executing) when you try to adjust your MIDI settings in WinUAE.  Sometimes you cannot change settings in UAE if an emulation is currently running.

Not sure if this is your problem, but it might be.
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Offline x303

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 09:13:33 PM »
Btw, which version of winuae are you using ?
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 09:20:43 PM »
Quote from: x303;689669
Btw, which version of winuae are you using ?



The latest non beta
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline x303

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2012, 09:25:56 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689670
The latest non beta
If you still have problems with the latest beta, you should get in touch with Tony Wilen and explain him your problems (and send logfiles, he'll like that :biglaugh:)
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2012, 09:35:22 PM »
Quote from: x303;689671
If you still have problems with the latest beta, you should get in touch with Tony Wilen and explain him your problems (and send logfiles, he'll like that :biglaugh:)



Ya... I'm always good at bug reports...

So much so I think most authors hate me! :)
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline Ral-Clan

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2012, 09:39:20 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;689672
Ya... I'm always good at bug reports...

So much so I think most authors hate me! :)

You need to make sure you actually have a MIDI device in your computer.  I.e. you said you were using a Soundblaster Live....someone suggested that the MIDI part (MPU-401?) might have been stripped out of your version.  Might want to check that.

Even so, if you are using Windows XP or beyond, isn't there a software MIDI module built into Windows?  I don't use it, but I remember that when I use MIDI software under Windows XP, I can either direct output to the MicroSoft MIDI module (can't remember what it is called) or my real MIDI hardware.

Anyway, WinUAE is great for MIDI.  I use Bars & Pipes and other MIDI software through WinUAE.  It's pretty good.  My MIDI interface is built into an M-Audio Audiophile 192 sound card and works well.

I think if you use something like MIDI-Yoke (freeware) or MIDI-OX you can even sync audio recording software running on the Windows side with Amiga MIDI sequencers via MIDI Time Code or MIDI Clocks and use the two simultaneously.
Music I've made using Amigas and other retro-instruments: http://theovoids.bandcamp.com
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2012, 09:42:12 PM »
Ya, I'll have to check into that and see if Creative Labs actually and really (why on God's green earth) did something as stupid and ironic as that. What a great way to give aspiring musicians the finger!

Quote from: ral-clan;689675
You need to make sure you actually have a MIDI device in your computer.  I.e. you said you were using a Soundblaster Live....someone suggested that the MIDI part (MPU-401?) might have been stripped out of your version.  Might want to check that.

Even so, if you are using Windows XP or beyond, isn't there a software MIDI module built into Windows?  I don't use it, but I remember that when I use MIDI software under Windows XP, I can either direct output to the MicroSoft MIDI module (can't remember what it is called) or my real MIDI hardware.

Anyway, WinUAE is great for MIDI.  I use Bars & Pipes and other MIDI software through WinUAE.  It's pretty good.  My MIDI interface is built into an M-Audio Audiophile 192 sound card and works well.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline XDelusion

Re: WinUAE: MIDI Port where art though?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2012, 09:47:15 PM »
EDIT: Pics added.

And for the note, I am MISSING my real Amiga already. The MIDI device I have was a prototype for a product that I don't think ever released. Though, judging from the photo I just found on Google, it did finally release, but in white instead of beige?

 Anyhow it is must better than being limited to one In port and one Out port as I will be in Windows.

The MIDI device sticks just out the back of the Amiga, is very sturdy, and has 1 In port, 2 Out ports, and 1 Out port that can also be switched to a Through Port. On top of that you can still plug in more devices behind this on. And to make a killer device even cooler, I ordered a MIDI switch from London that allows me to use a switch to determine what my Input device will be, thus giving me a total of 2 In Ports!!!!
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 09:54:29 PM by XDelusion »
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs