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Offline XDelusion

Look what DosBOX can do!!
« on: January 31, 2012, 07:02:11 PM »


At present there are not too many games that run, but the speed is there. As Fish was saying, it is possible to modify the sources so that will more games such as Half-Life can be played, also I guess OpenGL can be made to work, though I've had trouble getting games to run smoothly in GlMode under DosBOX on Windows, but maybe there's something I'm missing.

Sadly, Fish is having computer troubles, so it may be a while till we see any advances, but in the mean time I figured I'd upload this little photo just to show that Windows can indeed be ran inside of AROS! :)

Photo taken on a machine running at 2.6Ghz.
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Offline trekiej

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 07:08:17 PM »
Cool.
I may give it a try.
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Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 07:10:26 PM »
wait, so is that AROS running Dosbox running windows?
 

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Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 07:21:44 PM »
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Offline Mequa

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 08:24:53 PM »
Looks like Windows 95 or perhaps a cut-down 98. I have seen a modified version of Windows 98 with 98lite running on DOSBox cross-platform, so assuming the AROS port of DOSBox is feature-complete it should be possible to emulate Windows 98 under AROS. It is much slower than native though or a decent VM.

Not sure about ME, 98lite also works with ME, but NT-based Windows such as 2000, XP and above are not compatible with DOSBox as it doesn't provide the necessary complete Pentium instruction set.
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Offline XDelusion

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 08:34:30 PM »
It's  98lite, and yes in DosBox on AROS.

Next release should have glide/GL support.
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Offline haywirepc

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 09:56:52 PM »
Whatever the windows version, its great news. Windows 95/98 can run tons of apps...

xp would be better, but your not doing that in dosbox. Its a start.

AROS getting closer to day to day machine every day. I hope and pray for better browsing and more productivity apps.... Every day I pray.

Of course I also pray for smp, a kickass video editing package, some kickass music applications and other things that may never happen...

Being able to substitute windows apps in the meantime would be great.

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Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 10:11:03 PM »
Quote from: Mequa;678478
Looks like Windows 95 or perhaps a cut-down 98. I have seen a modified version of Windows 98 with 98lite running on DOSBox cross-platform, so assuming the AROS port of DOSBox is feature-complete it should be possible to emulate Windows 98 under AROS. It is much slower than native though or a decent VM.

Not sure about ME, 98lite also works with ME, but NT-based Windows such as 2000, XP and above are not compatible with DOSBox as it doesn't provide the necessary complete Pentium instruction set.


Hmm, NT4 requires a '486 instruction set and 12mb RAM to run (having run it on a P120 with 24mb RAM though I can tell you that ain't exactly "true"), but clearly if DOSBox has the full ia32/80486 instruction code emulated, or at least all of the calls trapped, it can be run as long as your primary partition is FAT16 (IIRC; it's been a decade since I touched NT4).
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Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 10:26:51 PM »
Congrats to DosBOX!

But i don't understand. If you want to use Windows why not use Windows?   :confused:

There are credible reasons why WinUae is used such as not being able or willing to own classic hardware so i can understand people using it as a substitute for the real thing. But emulating Windows on AROS seems like a waste of effort somehow. I just don't know...

PS I also think it *YAWNS*  is boring.
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Offline XDelusion

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 10:37:49 PM »
I have 1 reason and one reason only...

To run Half-Life, Dark Forces II, and Drac's Shadow (a suped up clone of Castlevania II).

Many old Win95 games are problematic in XP and 7, plus I'm looking for ways to avoid having a dedicated Windows machine in my house.

Besides, the next Amiga Commodore had planned was supposed to be able to run Workbench, Mac OS, and Windows...

I'd say AROS (bugs aside) is the closest to achieving that dream in particular, though I'll be happier once MorphOS is converted to Arm or X86 and will have faster hardware available to pull off such feats as well! MorphOS is just solid all around.
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Offline orange

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2012, 10:40:41 PM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;678473
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wouldn't that be ultimate achievement? if it could run ME, it could run anything!
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Offline Templario

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 11:04:27 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;678467


At present there are not too many games that run, but the speed is there. As Fish was saying, it is possible to modify the sources so that will more games such as Half-Life can be played, also I guess OpenGL can be made to work, though I've had trouble getting games to run smoothly in GlMode under DosBOX on Windows, but maybe there's something I'm missing.

Sadly, Fish is having computer troubles, so it may be a while till we see any advances, but in the mean time I figured I'd upload this little photo just to show that Windows can indeed be ran inside of AROS! :)

Photo taken on a machine running at 2.6Ghz.
An easy question, I saw your screenshoot, DosBox runs software but this is under img, how I can make this images, because it is How the other virtual machines on Windows? aslo I'll like run DR-DOS the best PC Dos system.
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Offline XDelusion

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 11:59:37 PM »
Quote from: Templario;678497
An easy question, I saw your screenshoot, DosBox runs software but this is under img, how I can make this images, because it is How the other virtual machines on Windows? aslo I'll like run DR-DOS the best PC Dos system.

Are you asking me how to take a screen shot in AROS?

At work, will have to get back to you about Dr. Dos.
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Offline smerf

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 03:01:46 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;678488
Congrats to DosBOX!

But i don't understand. If you want to use Windows why not use Windows?   :confused:

There are credible reasons why WinUae is used such as not being able or willing to own classic hardware so i can understand people using it as a substitute for the real thing. But emulating Windows on AROS seems like a waste of effort somehow. I just don't know...

PS I also think it *YAWNS*  is boring.


Hi,

@Kesa

"But i don't understand. If you want to use Windows why not use Windows?"

Because these Loonies, would rather use Dosbox to run windows, they think they made a big accomplishment.


DUHHHHH!!!!  Look I am running window in AROS when I could just as easily run windows on this machine.

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!


Next they will be showing windows running on a MAC. Going WOW I am running windows on a MAC.

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Offline XDelusion

Re: Look what DosBOX can do!!
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2012, 03:33:22 AM »
Quote from: Templario;678497
An easy question, I saw your screenshoot, DosBox runs software but this is under img, how I can make this images, because it is How the other virtual machines on Windows? aslo I'll like run DR-DOS the best PC Dos system.


Um... Windows 98 ain't supported by modern hardware dork! :)
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs