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Offline trekiej

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2011, 12:14:08 AM »
I think the version of Grub that is bundled with Xamiga needs to be replaced.
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Offline Heiroglyph

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2011, 01:38:21 AM »
Why do you say that?

I've never used it, but I doubt it used Grub 2.

To me it's one of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" things.
 

Offline trekiej

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2011, 10:18:15 AM »
When I instll Xamgia on one of the P III's it can not find the drives correctly.
Some where between sda and hda there looks like their is some confusion.
Maybe it is just unsupported hardware.
Gparted sees the drives hda on one machine and another machine it is sda.
I had to change sda2 to hda2 to get it to load.
810 chip set, I am not for sure what to say about it.
Edit:
I had to install MacPup 5.1.1 and make the partitions.
I had to use its Grub to get things going.
I am puting Xamiga on the second partition.
It can not mount root.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2011, 10:23:31 AM by trekiej »
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Offline stefcep2

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2011, 01:11:11 PM »
I remember seeing BeOS running during an Amiga user group meeting.  It was using a TV card, playing back mpeg video, and multi-tasked superbly.  It even had multiple work spaces ala Amiga screens.  I loved the look and feel.  It was an Amiga in everything but name, and better.  Shame that the Open Source folks chose Linux and didn't choose to support this.  Was so much nicer to use than Windows, Mac and the KDE or Gnome of the day.  Maybe even today.
 

Offline trekiej

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2011, 01:24:45 PM »
It is odd that such a fine O.S. failed. I guess three is the number of O.S. survivability in the mainstream, Win,Mac,Linux.
I wonder what was on the minds of Commodore when Open Source came on the scene.
I do not think that would have been the reason to rehash some of there technology the way they did.
I will have to research the 80's and 90's to get a better idea.
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Offline XDelusion

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2011, 02:04:09 PM »
Man... If I had internet at home, I could upload a BeOS software pack that would make you guys drool.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline trekiej

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2011, 03:04:15 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;646041
Man... If I had internet at home, I could upload a BeOS software pack that would make you guys drool.


Do you have any pictures? Maybe some one could use a cell phone to send them.

I noticed that as BeOS progressed software had a R3,R4,R5 compatability label.

Unfortunately I have to use the " Do not call Bios" option when I boot.
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Offline XDelusion

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2011, 03:14:03 PM »
Pictures of what? My software collection? For that I'd have to build a system and organize all I've got, which includes some long lost commercial sifts as well as unreleased software and code from some of the major coders from back in the day. I know I had upped some of it to Haikuware with their permission a couple years back.

Oh and it's primarily 5.0 softs, along with some old Yellowtab stuff, not to mention various distros.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline trekiej

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2011, 03:30:32 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;646051
Pictures of what? My software collection? For that I'd have to build a system and organize all I've got, which includes some long lost commercial sifts as well as unreleased software and code from some of the major coders from back in the day. I know I had upped some of it to Haikuware with their permission a couple years back.

Oh and it's primarily 5.0 softs, along with some old Yellowtab stuff, not to mention various distros.


I was thinking screen shot. oops.
Thanks for thinking of uploading files.
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Offline XDelusion

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2011, 07:08:36 PM »
I remember searching high and low for Exult 1.0, which is one of the titles I had upped. Previously the only copy aeu BeOS site had was something like .96. Thanks again to the original author for that hook up.
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline trekiej

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2011, 07:21:30 PM »
Here is a site.
http://qdgtruie.free.fr/
This one is good too.
http://haikuware.com/
Bebits maybe much broken.
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Offline Heiroglyph

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2011, 07:44:24 PM »
Be was one of the big players in the Microsoft antitrust lawsuit.

The part that didn't get pushed hard enough was control of the boot loader.

Microsoft stipulated that Windows OEM's couldn't install any third-party boot loader on OEM machines.

Be was making deals with big players such as Sony to dual boot Windows and BeOS so that users had the option, but MS put a stop to this.  In order for Sony to not break either contract, they had to install both OS's, but make the user manually enable BeOS as an option.  This was too cumbersome for normal users to really deal with, so it went basically unused by anyone other than those already dedicated to BeOS.

Combined with Steve Jobs returning to Apple and killing the Mac clone licenses, BeOS lost any real chance in both PPC and x86 markets.

The last attempt at staying afloat was in set top boxes (sound familiar?) but it was just too early for the market to support it.

They eventually ran out of cash and sold to Palm who didn't really do anything with it.

Before they went completely under, certain parts of the OS such as Tracker (think Workbench) were open sourced.  This is partially why Haiku has gotten so far in such a short time compared to some other clone OS's such as AROS.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2011, 07:46:40 PM by Heiroglyph »
 

Offline trekiej

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2011, 07:59:59 PM »
Apple was doing rough in the 90's, at some points, and it would have been nice if Be had taken advantage of the situation. Apple had too many different models. Going Unix seemed to be saviour.
Hmmm, set-top boxes, the electronic omen.
edit:
I noticed that Haiku has a Galium bounty posted on it's front page.
http://haikuware.com/
« Last Edit: June 18, 2011, 08:39:51 PM by trekiej »
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Offline XDelusion

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2011, 09:42:08 PM »
Anyone have any idea how close Haiku is to a non-Alpha/Beta release?
Earth has a lot of things other folks might want... like the whole planet. And maybe these folks would like a few changes made, like more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and room for their way of life. - William S. Burroughs
 

Offline Heiroglyph

Re: BeOS 5.0 Pro.
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2011, 11:03:35 PM »
Although they are still calling them alphas, from what I've seen they have pretty high standards.

They are really close to releasing alpha 3 and the next version will be the first beta.

I've seen worse than the current builds released as final though.  At least on my hardware it's fine for daily use.