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Offline Florida

Is it possible through software to make the LCD screen look like an old tube television?  You know where you can pinpoint each pixel.  Or how about how they did in the movie 'RoboCop'; the way the picture looks like when we see the view of RoboCop, like every 3rd or fourth line is faded in a group of also 3 or 4 lines.
 
I thought it could be fun to watch older movies with such a plug-in or software that could create such a look, without having to acquire an old CRT.
 
I looked for an iTunes plugin but I had no luck in my search.
 

Offline MaDDuck

Re: Windows 7 - Make LCD picture turn into CRT style for old movies showings
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 02:05:30 AM »
Actually on Robocop, they used a physical filter with actual thread pulled across! I learned that from the Criterion collection LD
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Offline coldfish

Re: Windows 7 - Make LCD picture turn into CRT style for old movies showings
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 02:15:52 AM »
Some emulators have filter settings where you can black every 2nd or 3rd line to get the effect your talking about.

might help:  http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=114921
 

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Re: Windows 7 - Make LCD picture turn into CRT style for old movies showings
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 02:20:39 AM »
I know this is not Windows 7 but, the Indivision AGA is rumored to have a scan line emulation mode that I think would be similar to what your talking about.

Perhaps a try doing a google search for "scan line emulation".

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Offline coldfish

Re: Windows 7 - Make LCD picture turn into CRT style for old movies showings
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 02:32:19 AM »
old LCD + sharpie + ruler + 30mins

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Offline Florida

Re: Windows 7 - Make LCD picture turn into CRT style for old movies showings
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 02:12:38 AM »
Very interesting...even that screensaver that was mentioned in one of the links.  Well, maybe one day.
 

Offline Florida

Try search for 'SLG3000'. There is also a video on YouTube regarding this thing. It comes with VGA, I am not sure if it is possible to get one with HDMI which would be awesome but at least it is a start. It is hardware not software and that is okay, it seems to work perfectly.
 
YouTube video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzPqwkREvKE
 
Info from: http://www.arcadeforge.de/
The SLG3000 is a small PCB which allows you to display CRT'esque scanlines on VGA CRTs, LCDs or Plasmas displays. The SLG3000 has a VGA input and a VGA output connector, a potentionmeter to adjust the scanline density and a few dip switches to adjust to the source signal's sync polarity.
 
An on/off switch can be attached using screw terminals.
 
- Who created the SLG3000 ?
Winfried Ellenbeck (winni) and Jochen Zurborg (bencao74) from Germany.
 
- Where can I order the SLG3000 ?
Either from Jochen's page ( http://www.arcadeforge.de/ ) or via PM to bencao74.
 
- How much is the SLG3000 ?
It's 49 EUR plus a very affordable shipping rate.
 
Edit: Question: If the TV supports VGA, how do you input sound?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2011, 08:01:56 PM by Florida »
 

Offline Speelgoedmannetje

Interlacing is the word you're looking for :)
It can be emulated by various players, as well as setting the 4:3 ratio (I know XBMC does support it)
« Last Edit: April 19, 2011, 08:16:17 PM by Speelgoedmannetje »
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Offline Lockon_15

Quote from: AmigaEd;614532
I know this is not Windows 7 but, the Indivision AGA is rumored to have a scan line emulation mode that I think would be similar to what your talking about.

Perhaps a try doing a google search for "scan line emulation".

Regards,
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Not Indivision AGA, but Indivision ECS which has 2 discrete video mode filters: Scanline and TV emulation mode.
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Offline Ral-Clan

Quote from: Speelgoedmannetje;632505
Interlacing is the word you're looking for :)
It can be emulated by various players, as well as setting the 4:3 ratio (I know XBMC does support it)

Well, partly - the aperture grille or shadow mask of a CRT contributes a lot to this look as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_mask
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille
« Last Edit: April 20, 2011, 03:00:50 AM by ral-clan »
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Offline actung_bab

Quote from: Florida;614525
Is it possible through software to make the LCD screen look like an old tube television?  You know where you can pinpoint each pixel.  Or how about how they did in the movie 'RoboCop'; the way the picture looks like when we see the view of RoboCop, like every 3rd or fourth line is faded in a group of also 3 or 4 lines.
 
I thought it could be fun to watch older movies with such a plug-in or software that could create such a look, without having to acquire an old CRT.
 
I looked for an iTunes plugin but I had no luck in my search.
its called getting crt tv for like few bucks never ceases maze me why people
go to so much trouble to emulate someting when real things always better
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Offline Florida

If I mount a CRT on the wall I will not be able to open the door to the room. :eek: Next month I am going to order this gadget.  How do you hook up sound when using a VGA on a flat screen TV?
 

Offline Thorham

Quote from: actung_bab;632530
its called getting crt tv for like few bucks never ceases maze me why people
go to so much trouble to emulate someting when real things always better
Indeed, and now they have to get a bulky CRT somewhere and they have to put it somewhere. Highly annoying when one doesn't want to bother with CRTs anymore.

Furthermore, if you already have everything set up, then all you need is some video player with the right filters (may actually be a bit of a problem).
 

Offline Amiga_Nut

Windows is not usable on a CRT because 1024x768 looks terrible AND Windows is unusable with less than that resolution.

CRTs have round pixels and scanlines, LCDs have neither of those attributes so you need at least 1280x1024 LCD to get decent scanline effect anyway.