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Offline motorollin

Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« on: December 22, 2010, 12:35:45 PM »
I've got a bug up my arse about building a tiny intel motherboard into an A1200 case with a Keyrah to allow use of the original keyboard/mouse/joystick. All of the boards I have found either have too large a footprint, or have big heat sinks on top which make them too deep. So, does anyone know of any tiny boards which would run AROS? On board TV out would be a bonus, if supported by AROS, though this isn't a must.

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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 12:45:02 PM »
The optimal mobo would be a Via Epia with a C7, but since Aros doesn't support S3 video cards, an Atom-based mini-ITX card is probably the best bet:
http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=47
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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 01:44:48 PM »
Lots of Mini ITX boards that would work fine, as Whabang said - take a peek at http://www.mini-itx.com and see their offerings.  I've had very good luck dealing with them business wise, I've got a Mini ITX UAE rig that I'm very happy with, performance and footprint wise.
 

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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 02:28:07 PM »
The mini-ITX boards tend to be too tall to fit in the slope of the A1200 case. I have an EPIA board and a spare A1200 case here for the same idea... But gave up due to the board not fitting (heat sink and memory stick up too high) and the difficulty interfacing the A1200 keyboard with the ITX...

If you do try it, I suggest one of VIA's PicoITX boards. Then get a friend to build you a keyboard controller that can interface with USB or PS/2 :)

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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 02:41:33 PM »
Quote from: motorollin;600710
I've got a bug up my arse about building a tiny intel motherboard into an A1200 case with a Keyrah to allow use of the original keyboard/mouse/joystick.

I have the same bug, but for an even smaller Amiga. Industrial single board computers are made for this  sort of thing (embedding in something else). I've had a WinSystems board around for years that will fit in an A600 case, just haven't gotten to it yet. Their latest board should fly running AROS:

http://sbc.winsystems.com/products/EPX-855.cfm
 

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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 02:46:05 PM »
Cheers guys. Looks like I'll have to contact Mini-ITX.com and see if they can let me know the lowest profile compatible board. Alternatively I might butcher a laptop :hammer:

As for the keyboard, wouldn't a Keyrah do the trick?
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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2010, 02:57:23 PM »
@mfilos
Do you know whether the board in that system would fit inside an A1200 housing?
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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2010, 03:16:22 PM »
Butchering a laptop might be the most economic idea (ironically),  you can pick them up cheap on eBay... Cheaper with a broken screen (which you won't need)... Keyrah looks like it will do the job... Though I have no experience with one.

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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 03:18:35 PM »
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Butchering a laptop might be the most economic idea (ironically),  you can pick them up cheap on eBay... Cheaper with a broken screen (which you won't need)... Keyrah looks like it will do the job... Though I have no experience with one.


Since getting my iPad, my ageing first gen MacBook has seen little use... Maybe I'll take out the mobo and see if it fits...
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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 03:30:12 PM »
As far as I saw, the iMica uses the IntelĀ® D945GCLF2 mobo. I used to have this mobo 1 year ago (nowadays I'm using an ION instead for my HTPC needs) and it's a standard 17x17mm mini itx board.
http://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/atoms/default.asp?page=6

I would be shocked if the mobo didn't fit such a huge case like A500s... but I can't tell for sure.
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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2010, 03:34:38 PM »
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As far as I saw, the iMica uses the IntelĀ® D945GCLF2 mobo. I used to have this mobo 1 year ago (nowadays I'm using an ION instead for my HTPC needs) and it's a standard 17x17mm mini itx board.
http://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/atoms/default.asp?page=6

I would be shocked if the mobo didn't fit such a huge case like A500s... but I can't tell for sure.


Thanks... As I said it's the height rather than the footprint area which is likely to be a problem, as the A1200 housing is quite low profile. I'll check the height of the board and see if it would fit.
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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 03:43:37 PM »
Oops now I saw you wanted A1200 casing and not A500 (another guy wanted to do the same in A500 casing over EAB).
I believe you won't have an issues since the height issues you're gonna have is only from the CPU or Chipset heatsink that can be changed for a lower profile in worst case scenario+fan :)

Keep us posted mate, it's indeed a nice project \o/
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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2010, 04:15:32 PM »
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I believe you won't have an issues since the height issues you're gonna have is only from the CPU or Chipset heatsink that can be changed for a lower profile in worst case scenario+fan :)

Good idea... Can you get flatter heatsinks with a large surface area?

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Keep us posted mate, it's indeed a nice project \o/

Will do, though I don't anticipate doing much with this for a while as funds are short!
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Re: Tiniest AROS-compatible mobo?
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2010, 05:15:36 PM »
Hi,

am i allowed to suggest buying the board from Steven http://www.clusteruk.com ?
He is helping a lot and needs every send. He spend a lot time, enthusiasm and money. Just my 2 cents....