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Offline KThunder

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2010, 06:06:46 PM »
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It was the the repeated reference to the font needing to be "related" that throws me.

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Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2010, 06:12:01 PM »
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Not exactly aros use but I was suprised to see Aros included in the other os's listing in a computer book I have at home. I don't know if the authors are ex-amiga but it is possible I suppose. Or they were just searching for any and all other os's.


As for this discussion I think that Aros can go both ways.
There is no real reason that Aros can not be the user friendly, small, good looking os that linux tries to be. Linux is Unix and is complex, confusing in many ways to newcomers, and is splitting more and more between the distros. If Aros had a good easy to use and complete web browser, Office package, and printing utilities, my Mom would use it right now. Whereas one of my brothers (an anti-MS linux fanatic) tried to setup linux for her and it ended up being to much for her.

Aros can also be the AmigaOs related os for all us ex and current amiga users. Slick and smooth with built-in UAE and all the nostalgia we can muster (anyone got an old a4000t case I could abuse?)

All that said, I don't really care about logos. Case badges are where I'm at, but I like them simple and clean.


To shoot over 5% market share on the desktop an OS needs to:

Be sold in stores pre-installed.
Be made by a corporation.


Any alternative to windows and mac (BEOS, linux, aros, etc) in the desktop consumer market must compete with people pirating windows, office etc. You can't compete with theft on price, and people only go for an alternative if they have an interest in this stuff.

That's okay though. As we talked about in another thread, aros doesn't need mainstream success to be good.
Work on porting applications, improving hardware compatibility etc. Make things better for the geeks and retro fans who like it.

Linux does as well as it does, because it's in the embedded market, the super computers, the servers, cell phones etc. Desktop users are just one part of the package, and a reasonably minor one at that.
 

Offline eb15

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2010, 06:18:00 PM »
If you're doing a new logo you really have to study up on illuminati corporate logos and make sure you're using the correct (evil?) symbols in it.  rising sun, pyramid, owl, 666s, etc.  hahaha ;-)
 

Offline KThunder

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2010, 06:20:50 PM »
Yeah, I think that linux is very well suited to the apps you mentioned. My point was that as far as for a desktop Os for newbies and non computer types, Aros could actually become better than linux. I don't think either will ever make a serious dent in the desktop arena, and thats ok.

As an Amiga fan, I use Aros more than Linux.
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Offline Belial6

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2010, 06:25:42 PM »
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No it isn't. The Amiga checkmark is a long abandoned trademark that can be used by anyone for anything at this point.


That is simply untrue.  Amiga products are still being sold that have the Amiga check mark.  Every copy of Amiga Forever that sells is being sold with the kickstart roms which show the Amiga Trademark on boot.

So, even if you ignore the fact that IP law is completely out of wack in such a way that you might get sued even if the trademark is abandoned, it wouldn't apply to the check mark since it is still in use.
 

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Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2010, 11:10:23 PM »
If you wanna know what I think, well you probably don't but that's never stopped me before :lol: I reckon it looks a tad dodgy, kinda like something cobbled together in mspaint.
 

Offline kedawa

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2010, 03:29:15 AM »
With the rainbow colours, a bent pair of purple-headed shafts, and a little red in the 'O', it certainly gives off a different vibe than the saucy kitty.
 

Offline anglosaxonusa

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2010, 06:52:12 AM »
I made this just for fun:



A close up:

 

Offline anglosaxonusa

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2010, 06:52:55 AM »
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If you wanna know what I think, well you probably don't but that's never stopped me before :lol: I reckon it looks a tad dodgy, kinda like something cobbled together in mspaint.

Thanks for being candid.
 

Offline kolla

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2010, 09:09:02 AM »
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That is simply untrue.  Amiga products are still being sold that have the Amiga check mark.  Every copy of Amiga Forever that sells is being sold with the kickstart roms which show the Amiga Trademark on boot.
And? As I wrote, anyone can use it for anything at this point. The only reason why the checkmark is there on boot is because kickstart 3.1 (well, 2.0 really) had it there, and replacing it is not something as trivial as replacing some bitmap.

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So, even if you ignore the fact that IP law is completely out of wack in such a way that you might get sued even if the trademark is abandoned, it wouldn't apply to the check mark since it is still in use.


That someone use it does not mean that it's a valid trademark. Noone has legally cared about the checkmark since the days of Amiga Technologies GMBH and Amiga OS 3.1 when it was featured on the reprinted manuals (original OS3.0 and 3.1 manuals had no checkmark on them, only the 5 colour stroke). The checkmark was abandoned in favour of the boingball once Amiga International came along, and along with the written escom "AMIGA" the boingball has been the only protected logo since.

I've had T-shirts made with Amiga checkmarks on (nice indigo coloured ones), various Amiga related sites use it - it's been public domain more or less since CBM was around to care. I have yet to hear about _anyone_ even getting note about use of Amiga checkmark. And from whom would such a note come from anyways? Cloanto? Amiga Inc? Haha - dream on. The boingball on the other hand, has been the subject of many threats throughout the years.

And anyhow - the Amiga checkmark exists in so many variants, that it doesn't really work well as a legal logo. The one I use on my excellent T-shirts have the coloured version of this one on them, which is quite accurate compared to the one found on A1000. Opposed to the one used in bootscreens (which is limited due to hardware).

But by all means, if you think I'm wrong, feel free to sue me for infringement, or talk Cloanto or whoever into doing so.
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Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2010, 10:18:40 AM »
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I made this just for fun:



A close up:

:lol: you do deserve some respect for this :)

Offline AmigaNG

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2010, 01:27:20 PM »
Firstly anglosaxonusa thats a great drawing.
 

 I like the mascot aros has got, so much so I made my own Aros Inside sticker for my laptop
 

 

 

 I think it looks pritty good next to the intel inside sticker, it basicly my old avatar I made, which any one is welcome to.  
 

 

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Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2010, 03:09:00 PM »
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I made this just for fun:
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Offline kolla

Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2010, 04:51:44 PM »
The arrow is resting on the wrong side of the bow - the arrow will bounce off and she'll most likely miss whatever she's aiming for. I just wanted to point that out :)
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Re: Logos vs Mascots (AROS)
« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2010, 10:57:13 PM »
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I think it looks pritty good next to the intel inside sticker, it basicly my old avatar I made, which any one is welcome to.
 
 


My fiancĂ© really got a kick out of the blinking.  Great job!