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Offline wawrzon

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2010, 02:24:25 PM »
looks like an attempt to discredite aros and distract the attention from aeon. i mean aros is well off without clowns like that? who needs an amiga sticker on their pc, when they can get their imicas and ares? in worst case it ignites the war again. dont let you drag into this crap, just ignore them "commodore whatsoever".
 

Offline orb85750

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2010, 02:25:18 PM »
Yes, there can be two official Amiga lines now -- one based on hard work and new development, and the other capitalizing on all the hard (mostly unpaid) work that others have put into AROS.
 

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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2010, 02:40:15 PM »
Yes and this just shits all over all the hardwork putting together the hardware and getting new drivers written for imicas and ares.
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2010, 02:50:26 PM »
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"Our American lawyers will take action against this.

This is blatant violation of the rights Hyperion Entertainment secured in the settlement agreement with Amiga Inc., Itec and Amino.
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Damned right! This is f'ing annoying. McEwen can only be trying to make a little money (and maybe confuse/trash customer's opinion of the Amiga name).

Words cannot express the sense of irritation I have over the truck driver's latest move.

Any of you that buy one of these deserves a sharp slap in the face. If the X1000 isn't an Amiga, well its nothing else. This "Amiga" is a PC.

This is as illegitimate as it gets.
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Offline jorkany

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2010, 03:07:35 PM »
I don't agree with the methods used by CommodoreUSA, but I am very pleased with the results - and I'm not talking about their rebranded PCs.

I don't like AInc. at all, but thinking they had "disppeared into oblivion" just because their website is inactive is a mistake. Like it or not they do own the Amiga name and can do with it whatever they see fit. Hyperion got access to certain variations of the name in the settlement, but they still don't own the pie.

Despite their method of shoot first ask questions later, IMO CommodoreUSA came across the Amiga trademark much more honestly than Hyperion, who has been trashing the Amiga name for nearly ten years. I'll be very interested in watching the threatened Hyperion lawsuit (against who - AInc. or CommodoreUSA?) and it's outcome.

Finally, I think it's teriffic seeing the OS4 faithful getting a taste of their own medicine. The hypocrisy of calling a rebranded Teron an Amiga is brought to light in the most illuminating way possible. Very satisfying, and I look forward to more popcorn.
 

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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2010, 03:14:12 PM »
But thinking about this, there might be a bit of revenge about this.

Hyperion kept on selling OS4 for other platforms etc until the court case was over.

Im guessing that Commode USA and Amiga INC will continue until things are cleared up.

I would be surprisde if Hyperion have got any grounds to stop this, but I hope to god that they do
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Offline CSixx

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2010, 03:41:12 PM »
I wish Hyperion a quick and successful lawsuit against these Commodore nobodies...
 

Offline F1Lupo

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2010, 03:45:03 PM »
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This is actually quite funny :)

I thought Amiga Inc had imploded and taken Mr Bill with them.....obviously not.

Oh well, if it does happen it will be a great boost for Aros.

ah c'mon Nova really! why tarnish the good things AROS are doing with the past crap A Inc. have done :confused:
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Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2010, 05:24:08 PM »
Wow!!!

This is very exciting news! :)

I'd never thought I'd ever see a *new* Commodore Amiga again! Wow, Super Cool! :) I will buy it for sure! :D

Maybe someone could release a renamed version of AROS for this one, like "TOS" (no, dear people, not "Terms Of Service" this time ;), but simply The Operating System! (inspired by Atari, for reasons explained in the next sentence ;))). Back in the Amiga days, The OS was something you would take for granted anyway, You bought the Commodore Amiga, and The OS was bundled "in the background" with every machine ever sold! See what I mean? So when I buy a *new* Commodore Amiga, I'd be *perfectly happy* to use The Operating System it's bundled with!

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Offline jorkany

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2010, 05:31:13 PM »
Quote from: CSixx;577099
I wish Hyperion a quick and successful lawsuit against these Commodore nobodies...


Just out of curiosity, what makes you think they plan to sue CommodoreUSA? Hyperion never had an agreement with them, if Hyperion sue anyone it seems like it would be AInc.
 

Offline Gary McCulloch

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2010, 05:37:45 PM »
I been buying PCs for years.  Next one will have the Commodore logo on it!
 

Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2010, 05:46:17 PM »
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But thinking about this, there might be a bit of revenge about this.

Hyperion kept on selling OS4 for other platforms etc until the court case was over.


Yes, that's very probable.

A good, solid deal is one where *both* parties walk away *smiling* after signing the contract.

The Hyperion "settlement" was a robbery. A judicial rape, performed by lawyers (or wannabe such). The only reason Hyperion "won" (which they didn't, not really), was because Amiga Inc completely lacked the means to defend themselves after a certain point. Amiga was defenseless at the end, she was lying on the ground, and Hyperion took what they wanted. That's my views of it, and your assumption above about "revenge" goes perfectly in line with that. Hyperion's actions could very well have made it quite personal to the owners of Amiga IP...

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Im guessing that Commode USA and Amiga INC will continue until things are cleared up.


Nothing needs being "cleared up" IMO.

Hyperion has a license *to use* some Amiga trade marks under certain conditions (some exclusive). They don't *own* jack shit however (pardon my "French").

Nowhere in the "settlement" is it stated that Amiga must roll over and die.

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I would be surprisde if Hyperion have got any grounds to stop this


I think it's quite clear they don't...
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Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2010, 05:47:31 PM »
Quote from: SpitfireTN;577124
I been buying PCs for years.  Next one will have the Commodore logo on it!


Yeah! Same here!

It will be a Commodore Amiga!

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Offline mongo

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2010, 06:00:38 PM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;577127
Yeah! Same here!

It will be a Commodore Amiga!

:)


No, it will be a PC with a sticker on it.

Probably a crappy PC at that.
 

Offline Lonewolf10

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2010, 06:03:25 PM »
That sucks. Where does that leave Hyperion?

If I wanted a dull grey/black box to run AROS on I could get a cheap laptop and install it on that.

Seems to me like another case of using a well-known name to try and sell computers.


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