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Offline persia

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #270 on: September 13, 2010, 06:05:30 AM »
Yeah, I'm saving money for an Android tablet, even though Google has taken a step back there's going to be a ****load of them released for Christmas.  I'm leaning towards an Archos 101.  Maybe I'll put some Amiga stickers on it and run UAE on it...
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #271 on: September 13, 2010, 08:13:53 AM »
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Tbh I quite like the Asus all in ones. Except for the fact they're all using ATI. ATI drivers on Linux is even more of a hateful experience now than it was 5 years ago.

I'm downgrading from 5750 to a 4650 so I can play games in screen modes other than 800x600. Also I hope to be able to use the latest Ubuntu distro. Anyone know why ATI is so slack with the drivers?
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #272 on: September 13, 2010, 09:55:58 AM »
It's not ATI developing ATI drivers.
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #273 on: September 13, 2010, 11:51:28 AM »
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And there we have it ladies and gentlemen.
 
Son, you just went full retard.

That actually made me spit coffee.
 
Sounds like a line from Gran Turinio :)
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #274 on: September 13, 2010, 11:58:39 AM »
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It's not ATI developing ATI drivers.

 
They were at one point or at least providing them.
 
They have moved a lot of their products into legacy which means no drivers and the older drviers do not work with the later  versions of X i believe
 
I know that I dont get proper drivers for my Dell 1501 laptop after about ubuntu 8.04 LTS
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #275 on: September 13, 2010, 12:03:46 PM »
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That actually made me spit coffee.
 
Sounds like a line from Gran Turinio :)


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0942385/quotes?qt0477767

Haven't seen the movie yet myself, but the quotes page is pretty good.
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #276 on: September 13, 2010, 12:26:15 PM »
I have seen it, and its actually really funny, which a surpirise.  Even Tom Cruise is really funny in this film.
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« Reply #277 on: September 13, 2010, 12:55:38 PM »
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It's not ATI developing ATI drivers.


ATI are the only ones that produce anything that have hardware accelerated 3d on more than a 9200.

Problem is that they tie their binary blobs a bit too tightly to the kernel and xorg versions, meaning that any given piece of hardware has a very specific service life unless you're willing to live with old kernels and Xorg versions. But it also means that you're severely limited in terms of distros you can use - 9.x or higher versions of ubuntu for instance do not support the 200M that is in my laptop (Nor does Elive 2.0 Stable, unfortunately).

The Open Source ATI drivers provide barely more than the most primitive of framebuffer capabilities on anything more advanced than a 9600. Not even Direct Rendering (2d) is supported much past this chip.

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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #278 on: September 13, 2010, 03:53:36 PM »
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ATI are the only ones that produce anything that have hardware accelerated 3d on more than a 9200.


Right, read the posting I was commenting on.
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #279 on: September 13, 2010, 09:59:33 PM »
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Right, read the posting I was commenting on.


Given that you didn't quote what you were commenting on as well as the fact that there are three comments above it that it could have been a comment on, what you're asking is impossible.
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« Reply #280 on: September 15, 2010, 05:14:07 AM »
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Right, read the posting I was commenting on.

As little as I'd like to stick up for leander, his point was completely correct.
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #281 on: September 15, 2010, 06:36:36 AM »
apparently ATI released some new drivers recently so who knows. I've generally stuck with Nvidia and been pretty happy
 

Offline Tripitaka

Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #282 on: September 15, 2010, 06:47:51 AM »
Not going to be an ATI for long, the brand name is getting phased out. By the end of the year Radeon and FirePro will be under the AMD brand instead. This will only effect new products I should hasten to add, older lines remain ATI.
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Re: Amiga PCs on the way....
« Reply #283 on: September 15, 2010, 06:49:18 AM »
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apparently ATI released some new drivers recently so who knows. I've generally stuck with Nvidia and been pretty happy


For windows maybe, but on the Linux side the "new" drivers only cover new gear (and even then not all of it).

Sadly as Nvidia weren't really on the market for notebook graphics when this one was purchased. I'm now in the position where the integrated Intel chip on my netbook now outperforms the Xpress200M that came with my Asus F5.
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