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Offline that_punk_guy

AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« on: November 23, 2003, 07:53:48 PM »
I used to be able to boot AROS from a CD on this P3-550 machine... Tried it as soon as I got the machine, and all that I've done since then is install QNX, BeOS and Mandrake Linux on it, along with Smart Boot Manager.

AROS starts booting but keeps tripping up and starting again. I get the 'Interrupts redirected, reallocating ExecBase, clearing fastmem... OK' followed by a bunch of stuff that I don't get much chance to see... IDE unit info, Floppy detected as a 1.44MB drive, then a few lines that start with 'Kbd'. That's as far as it gets - sometimes you can just see an error flash up (a guru, sometimes something about CPU defend (??) or garbage.)

Since each attempt at booting seems to get just past the stage of keyboard initialisation (I can type stuff and get what looks like debug info on keypresses echoed back for a split second) I started to wonder if it was my dodgy KVM or keyboard, so I removed the KVM and plugged my old monitor in, tried with two different keyboards, but with the same results.

Is it possible that my strange HD partition table could be to blame? (Sort of a mess, a QNX partition, two BeOS partitions, Mandrake in an extended partition, Smart Boot Manager in the MBR, which retained Mandrake's LILO MBR installation somewhere... it works, wherever it is ;-))

Does the data on the HD really matter if you're booting AROS from CD?

Tried it with the 23rd May 2003 and 13th September 2003 snapshots, and the latest (21st November) nightly build. Same results, slightly different messages.
 

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2003, 08:04:05 PM »
That's odd... But the Hard drive shouldn't be casuing that (you could always unplug it and find out ;-) ).

If you can read the Debugging text then that means that the VESA.hidd is not working... have you put a new gfx card in it?

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2003, 08:14:02 PM »
Nope, same card (ATI Rage) that I've used in this machine and an identical one (I'll try booting on that one, but as a last resort 'cause it's my webserver).

Well, I get the debug info if I choose VGA or VMWare. If I choose a VESA mode the screen appears to change resolution (you know how sometimes you can just tell, even though it's a black screen, that something's happening?) but I get a blank screen.

I figure it's having the same problems behind the scenes judging by the matching disk activity patterns (floppy light stuck on, HD flickers twice every 3 or 4 seconds.)

Perhaps I'll rip the HD out then ;-)
 

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2003, 08:19:04 PM »
I introduced a bug few days ago, removed just 2 days ago (21th Nov), which preevented AROS from functioning properly.

Try with the latest build, and see if the problem still persists.
 

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2003, 08:20:11 PM »
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Nope, same card (ATI Rage) that I've used in this machine and an identical one (I'll try booting on that one, but as a last resort 'cause it's my webserver).

Well, I get the debug info if I choose VGA or VMWare. If I choose a VESA mode the screen appears to change resolution (you know how sometimes you can just tell, even though it's a black screen, that something's happening?) but I get a blank screen.

I figure it's having the same problems behind the scenes judging by the matching disk activity patterns (floppy light stuck on, HD flickers twice every 3 or 4 seconds.)

Perhaps I'll rip the HD out then ;-)


When did this start happening? The hard dive and file system have been improved a bit in the last few months...

On friday, I tried the latest build and found that it worked fine on my Athlon and my P4... I even tried the HD install and that worked perfectly... (For the first time I might add :-D )

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2003, 08:26:20 PM »
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HD flickers twice every 3 or 4 seconds.)


Actually that could be CD access, the HD light seems to flicker when the CD is accessed on the machine in question.

Well, the May and September builds boot okay without the HD present. Very strange. The newest nightly build still doesn't but that could be a case of badly burnt, ancient CDRW, I'll try it from a CD-R.
 

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2003, 08:36:12 PM »
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When did this start happening? The hard dive and file system have been improved a bit in the last few months...

On friday, I tried the latest build and found that it worked fine on my Athlon and my P4... I even tried the HD install and that worked perfectly... (For the first time I might add :-D )


Well I hadn't tried booting AROS since before messing with my HD, putting QNX etc on there. The same two snapshots that worked before work fine without the HD present, the 21st November build doesn't work either way :-(

I'm gonna keep fiddling around, I'll post back here if there's any progress...
 

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2003, 08:41:41 PM »
At this stage of the Game I would suggest you use VMWare insted of CD-R :-)

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2003, 08:43:26 PM »
Chris!!! I've just tested 21st Nov 03 one and the same thing happens to me as you describe!!!!

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2003, 08:57:41 PM »
@Matt
Tried the one from 22nd?
 

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2003, 09:01:33 PM »
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Tried the one from 22nd?


The build fails from the 22nd CVS :-(

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2003, 09:25:32 PM »
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Chris!!!


Matt!!! ;-)

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I've just tested 21st Nov 03 one and the same thing happens to me as you describe!!!!


Won't boot on my Athlon box either, must be a broken build. Looks like my weird HD thing is a separate issue.

On a slightly different note, which version did you manage to get installed?

 

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2003, 09:32:17 PM »
I had a look and it seems it was a build from the 14th of November.

I will put that on line int he next few mins (or as soon as possible... since my Server seems to be crawling at the moment).

Gah... Uploads to my server are at 2Kps

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2003, 11:31:58 PM »
Ok, Chris...

Try this build:

AROS 14th November 2003

The build on my site has been updated even if the text hasn't :-D

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Re: AROS has started wigging out on me :-(
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2003, 11:41:08 PM »
Cheers Matt :-D