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Offline odin

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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2010, 12:06:46 AM »
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The Amiga connection is bogus - wikipedia isnt the truth.

It's scary to read wikipedia on topic one actually know something about, probably the quality of the rest of wikipedia is equally bad.

Here's a novel idea for you, correct the errors in the wiki article? :p.

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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2010, 01:25:58 AM »
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Here's a novel idea for you, correct the errors in the wiki article? :p.

I did. I've fixed quite alot of these articles, but I get fed up chasing revisionists with their various agendas.
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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2010, 02:25:36 AM »
And people complained when Wikipedia said they'd restrict editing....
 

Offline Trev

Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2010, 02:34:48 AM »
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With twinax, yes..
Token Ring?  No way....  That is one of the most elegant protocols ever!

Our problems with token ring were mostly related to faulty--and they were all "faulty" at some point thanks to flimsy construction--MAUs that wouldn't close relays when a station was disconnected. Folks were always kicking the STP data connectors out of the socket.
 

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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2010, 02:47:58 AM »
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I was really only talking about our IT environment at the time, and specifically about the number of 'problems' users had depending on whether they were required to use OS/2 or Windows on their desktop/laptop. The number of stupid little pathetic problems that Win95 has was a major pain in the butt and M$ never bothered to fix the worst of them...."it's a feature" bullshit constantly. And for us...CITRIX killed off all the problems with people buggering up their desktop Windows machines anyway. Remember this was in the late 90s, and it was really putting the control back to the IT people a la mainframe/terminal days of the 70s IT corporate environment.

People have a tendency to bugger up whatever you put in front of them. ;-) Yes, properly implemented, XenApp and its predecessors are perfect for application configuration management.

Maintaining a stable and productive environment does not require wresting control from users. I'd argue exactly the opposite, in fact, as the business conducted by those users lines my pockets each pay period. It's our job to enable users, not cripple them, and a good technologist should excel at successfully balancing everyone's requirements. (I'm still annoyed by stupid user tricks, of course.)

Plus, putting all your eggs into one basket a la mainframe computing is always a bad bet.
 

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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2010, 03:18:37 AM »
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People have a tendency to bugger up whatever you put in front of them. ;-) Yes, properly implemented, XenApp and its predecessors are perfect for application configuration management.

Maintaining a stable and productive environment does not require wresting control from users. I'd argue exactly the opposite, in fact, as the business conducted by those users lines my pockets each pay period. It's our job to enable users, not cripple them, and a good technologist should excel at successfully balancing everyone's requirements. (I'm still annoyed by stupid user tricks, of course.)

Plus, putting all your eggs into one basket a la mainframe computing is always a bad bet.


Point taken but I'll give you an example of why CITRIX was a solution for us personally.....

Not very astute assistant manager in some financial dept takes laptop home.....son puts on AOL free trial....employee comes in on Monday and complains network is down.

or

Employee installs Doom on work desktop PC, overwrites/changes various setting on PC trying to get it to work over office network.

These are just a handful of examples why people at work don't require more than the facility to access the specific applications they need to complete their financial tasks in the business. So for us it was the right way to go (I left in 99 but I'm pretty sure they went ahead with it anyway after fantastic trials). No offence but people are there to work not download MP3s and burn CDs on their desktop machines or install internet free trials on their laptops. I'm sure you know that the IT Dept was usually the first to get shafted as far as resource allocation goes...so if they want the extras the company needs to build in 50% redundancy for staffing resource in our dept to fix these type of non work related problems :)

Of course nowadays there are other compromises inbetween to get the same sort of effect but more resilience in your IT delivery solution to the users.
 

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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2010, 03:32:01 AM »
Haven't watched it yet myself, but here is a whole episode of Computer Chronicles dedicated to OS/2 Warp.

http://www.archive.org/details/OS2Warp
 

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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2010, 10:33:15 AM »
Quote from: kolla;553536
The Amiga connection is bogus - wikipedia isnt the truth.

It's scary to read wikipedia on topic one actually know something about, probably the quality of the rest of wikipedia is equally bad.


Correct it. That's the whole point of wikipedia.
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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2010, 01:39:19 PM »
This is wikipedias problem.  Nobody sees that they have an agenda, they're just "chasing revisionists with their various agendas" and setting the record right.

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I did. I've fixed quite alot of these articles, but I get fed up chasing revisionists with their various agendas.
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Offline espenbo

Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2010, 09:05:00 PM »
Well if you are intrested in trying OS/2 you can download the beta of the "new" OS/2. eComstation 2.
Go to http://www.ecomstation.com/ and follow the development.

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Offline Colani1200

Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2010, 09:33:03 PM »
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Not sure what Windows 7 you've been running but it has no issues running on a machine with 512MB of RAM


Yeah, sure. It even runs fine on my 386 DX 40.
 

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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2010, 02:44:47 AM »
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Yeah, sure. It even runs fine on my 386 DX 40.


I actually have managed to get it running in safe mode on my VIC-20.

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Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2010, 08:36:42 AM »
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Yeah, sure. It even runs fine on my 386 DX 40.


Having actual real world experience supporting Windows 7 (not to mention being in the IT industry for over 15 odd years) I do know what Windows 7 is capable of.

You just need to do a Google and find many success stories with 7. Microsoft listened to their users and and upped their game.

Windows 7 was designed from the ground up to fix the issues that were present in Vista, I could go into the details on this but I know it wouldn't make any difference to some peoples views (some of which haven't even used 7).

I think some people just jump on the band wagon because it's the latest trend and not actually look at the facts. In my mind I use a product if it's good not who produces it.

Cheap comments like the above are not needed and do not add to the conversation in anyway. I'm very surprised to see this sort of attitude in the Amiga forums, just seems childish and pointless.

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Offline stefcep2

Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2010, 08:59:30 AM »
Win7 boots quicker than Vista, it uses the hard drive less, and IMO looks rubbish next to Vista, Performance wise, its on par with XP.  Compatibility wise, XP runs everything I have, Vista less so, and Win 7 even less.  My mobile broadband modem is detected immediately first time every time in XP, every second time with Vista and every third or fourth or after a re-boot in Win 7. Security, well sure its more secure, but so was XP compared to 98, we'll see where 7 is security-wise in 5 years.

Me?  i use win 7 because of Mediacentre.  Thats all.
 

Offline Colani1200

Re: OS/2/Linux
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2010, 09:01:44 AM »
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Having actual real world experience supporting Windows 7 (not to mention being in the IT industry for over 15 odd years) I do know what Windows 7 is capable of.


Then you should at least know what the system requirements are:
http://windows.microsoft.com/systemrequirements