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Offline persia

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2010, 11:51:31 PM »

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Offline dreamcast270mhz

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2010, 12:00:41 AM »
I thought otherwise, hmm. PPC is NOT DEAD!!! I really will continue to use my G4 until it burns out or something, runs circles around my brother's Sempron laptop with 3Gb, he is runing win7 (thats probably why)
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Offline johnklos

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2010, 12:07:26 AM »
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..but you won't support the DSSI card in my MicroVAX!  I guess I could hunt down a SCSI controller...


Did you try uncommenting the DSSI line in the GENERIC kernel config?

#shac0          at mainbus0             # DSSI controller

I don't know what the exact status of it is, but it'd be interesting to hear.
 

Offline persia

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2010, 12:15:14 AM »
PPC is not dead, it's merely pining for the fjords of Norway!

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Offline Karlos

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2010, 12:31:14 AM »
PPC may disappear from the desktop but it is pretty pervasive in embedded markets.
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Offline Trev

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2010, 01:38:46 AM »
And lack of support from mainstream Linux distributors does nothing to prevent hardware vendors or users from rolling their own Linux distributions. As long as IBM keeps selling Power-based systems, the mainline Linux kernel will continue to support PowerPC and its derivatives.

I wonder how many vehicle manufacturers are using Linux kernels rated for automotive use? I've never seen GPL code available for download on a major manufacturer's web site.
 

Offline Tension

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2010, 01:41:29 AM »
Pining for the fjords?!?!?

Tried to put that in capitals for comic effect but apparently Amiga.org is a cunt these days
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Offline Super TWiT

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2010, 03:47:20 PM »
Dont fear. Powerpc is STILL used in the market place. The Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii all use powerpc chips. Powerpc is supported in the main Linux kernel (as is 68k). I am a linux user. You know, most applications are written in c or c++ anyway, so you could compile them for whatever architecture you like. Debian has official precompiled binary support for a number of archs. I prefer something like gentoo where you compile everything yourself. It has the advantage of having NEW versions of programs, plus you get all the optimisations for your specific computer.
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Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2010, 04:10:55 PM »
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I prefer something like gentoo where you compile everything yourself. It has the advantage of having NEW versions of programs, plus you get all the optimisations for your specific computer.
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Offline gaula92

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2010, 05:31:42 PM »
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Don't worry - you'll get over this phase ;-)


It's easy to say when you're a developer for the most efficient OS in the world, damn you :D
But for X86 (and if you ACTUALLY KNOW what you're into and what are you trying to archieve), Gentoo Linux is the best option.

I've been three years in Gentoo phase by now: I think I'll never get over it...
 

Offline kolla

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2010, 07:36:27 AM »
Not just x86. I'd say Gentoo is probably the best option for any non-mainstream architecture, since it provides nice and friendly tools to build and maintain your own distro.
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Offline the_leander

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2010, 07:56:53 AM »
@Kolla

How does Gentoo compare against say, NetBSD?
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Offline the_leander

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2010, 08:01:05 AM »
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I thought otherwise, hmm. PPC is NOT DEAD!!!


As a desktop arch, it is pushing up the daisies, it's curled up its tootsies. It has gone to meet its maker etc etc

The only place you'll likely find PPC is in the telecoms and some embedded places, but tbh outside of telecoms, you're pretty much in ARM territory these days.

Quote from: dreamcast270mhz;550289

 I really will continue to use my G4 until it burns out or something, runs circles around my brother's Sempron laptop with 3Gb, he is runing win7 (thats probably why)


You've said that before. I'd like to see something to back that up. I'm sure there are some benchmarking tools that could be used to test the claim.
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Offline fishy_fiz

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2010, 08:25:10 AM »
A product that isnt available yet and a board that is 5x as expensive as an off the shelf mobo+cpu combo 5x (or more) the speed arent a great arguement that ppc is alive and kicking on the dektop. In the case of the Sam it suggests otherwise (ie., only so expensive because demand is so small). I mean no discredit to the people involved in the development of the above mentioned systems though, if I had the money to spend on new toys I'd actually like a Sam.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

Offline kolla

Re: More GNU/Linux Distros Silently Drop PowerPC
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2010, 09:46:08 AM »
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@Kolla

How does Gentoo compare against say, NetBSD?

Not sure what to answer... Gentoo is typically Linux, how well does Linux compare against NetBSD? :)  The core of Gentoo, portage, can also be used as altenative packagemanager for NetBSD. I find it much easier to build packages with Gentoo portage than with NetBSD pkgsrc.
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