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Offline mdv2000

Why do people believe the advertising?
« on: March 28, 2010, 03:18:04 AM »
Okay, ever since I been seeing the stupid "Windows 7 was my idea " crap - I just can't keep quiet anymore.

So here goes - here is the primary version of Windows we have seen:

1.) Windows 1.0
2.) Windows 2.0
3.) Windows 3.0 (3.11 for workgroups more common one seen)
41.) Windows 95
5.) Windows 98
6.) Windows ME (Millennium)
7.) Windows 2000
8.) Windows XP
9.) Windows Vista

Now Windows 7 - but its the 10th version of Windows.  (I am not even counting Windows NT editions - versions that you couldn't get on low end Dells, HP, Gateway or Server Editions - But the 9 I listed where ALL marketed as versions of windows and sold as "New OS" when released.  So what the hell gives?  Why hasn't everyone call MS on this crap marketing lie?

And don't get me its the 7th unique Build crap - I guaran-damn-tee there is still windows 1.0 source code somewhere in Windows "7".

Just had to get that off my chest while writing this on my Amiga 939 (That's what I call my Dual Core AMD-939 - if MS can make up a number/name why can't I?)

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Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 03:20:41 AM »
Maybe "7" is their lucky number, good enough for me.
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Offline Belial6

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 05:00:38 AM »
To be fair, the Amiga 1000 wasn't the 1000th Amiga, and the 500 want the 500th.  Who cares how many versions of Windows there have been, and what number they assign now.  They can the the next version Windows L1/2, and it won't make a difference on how it runs.
 

Offline ElPolloDiabl

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 05:11:14 AM »
They are probably copying Ubuntu. Or they wanted to separate it from Vista. They will probably go 8 then if that sucks the next one will be named Windows Eye Candy edition EE for short.
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Offline Jiffy

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 09:18:03 AM »
Oh come on, not another "let's bash MS cuz Bill Gates is evil"...

Windows 7 has '7' as its version number, because it is in the NT 'branch' of Windows, as opposed to Windows 95, 98 or ME.

With Windows Vista having the official version number 6, there's no big deal in Windows 7 having '7' as it's version number. The only more or less weird thing with the NT version numbers was that the first real version of Windows NT was 3.1 (thus officialy named Windows NT 3.1). This was done for marketing purposes, as at the same time Windows 3.1 (which was developed into Windows 95, 98, ME) was already available.

Be happy they started using version numbers again, as opposed to names like 'XP' or 'Vista'.

This is (and should be!) common knowledge. Check this for reference.
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Offline whabang

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 09:34:22 AM »
Windows NT 3.1 was initially meant to be OS/2 version 3, and was partially developed together with IBM, which is why it has version number 3.
The .1 was added to make sure people didn't think it was worse than Windows 3.1 which was already released at the time.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2010, 09:37:05 AM by whabang »
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Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 10:31:22 AM »
Funny you're bringing this up. yesterday I had to install Windows 7 because apparently my Vista 'evaluation version' ran out. After hours of struggling with various BSOD's, lockups and crashes I reinstalled Vista instead. It's always the same: only after the first service pack is released Windows is stable enough to be usable.

Anyway I was thinking about the version number 7 aswell, and thought it was supposed to be something like this:

1: Windows 3.1
2: Windows 95
3: Windows 98
4: Windows 2000
5: Windows XP
6: Windows Vista
7: Windows 7

But I guess I was wrong.
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Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2010, 10:52:33 AM »
Quote from: Jiffy;550003
With Windows Vista having the official version number 6, there's no big deal in Windows 7 having '7' as it's version number.


if you run the ''about windows'' you will see that windows 7 have the version 6.1
it's more like windows vista service pack 3:laughing:
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Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 10:59:49 AM »
Windows 7 is easily the best Windows since Windows 2000.

To somehow suggest that there wouldn't have been real progress since Windows 1 is intellectually dishonest and outright stupid.
 

Offline mfilos

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 11:26:17 AM »
I don't care about numbering since it's never an issue on every item sold even that is a car model, a computer model or OS version :)

I agree 100% with Piru since Windows 7 are definitely the best windows since 2000 even since the 1st betas.
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Offline Boudicca

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 12:19:24 PM »
as I was pointing out on another thread regarding what AmigaOS was orignally called.......M$ OS's are not exactly as clear cut as the label suggests.

1. PCDOS/MSDOS Version 1 to 7 could be loaded with the Windows 1.0 to Windows ME GUI respectively. (Ok by the time of 95,98 and ME the lines were blurring somewhat but you could boot and run software using a single boot disk with no GUI in sight.)

2. Windows NT 3.1 for Intel IA-32, MIPS R3000/R4000 and Alpha, with PowerPC, Itanium and AMD64 was fully GUI running for the first time ntoskrnl.exe which did not run on top of any other OS Kernel with its own HAL.

3. Windows NT 3.5

4. Windows NT 4.0
5. Windows 2000/2000 Server (Version 5)
6. Windows XP/2003 Server (Version 5.1)
7. Windows Vista/2008 Server and Windows 7/Windows 2008 R2 (Version 6 and 6.1)

Thats were I see we are at, as the underlying Windows 7 OS is still Vista but tweaked. ( I think I read somewhere they have same internal version no.)

But I would suggest like Windows 98 Se and Me....Vista is toast compared to Windows 7 the experience is excellent generally.
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Offline AndyLandy

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 12:49:13 PM »
Quote from: amigagr;550008
if you run the ''about windows'' you will see that windows 7 have the version 6.1
it's more like windows vista service pack 3:laughing:
Oops!

Windows 2000 calls itself Windows NT 5.0
Windows XP is Windows NT 5.1 (and Windows Server 2003 is NT 5.2)
Windows Vista is Windows NT 6

It would have made perfect sense if Windows 7 was Windows NT 7...

This also holds if you go by the internal versions of Win 9x editions:

Windows 95  4.00.950
Windows 98  4.10.1998
Windows 98SE  4.10.2222
Windows ME  4.90.3000
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Offline Arkhan

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 01:03:53 PM »
is there an honest point to debating the version numbering? Sometimes they slap a number at the end, other times its a word, sometimes its both!

XP was eXPerience, maybe 7 isnt actually the version #, and is a secret riddle.



either way, it could have been called Windows TreeStump and it would be just as nice.
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Offline ElPolloDiabl

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 01:28:47 PM »
Vista is 6.1, so therefore 7 is 7.0

Approx the number cpu cores you need to run it.
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Offline Philophus

Re: Why do people believe the advertising?
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2010, 01:34:21 PM »
That may have been true for Vista but 7 runs happily on single core processors.