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Offline stefcep2

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2010, 05:09:07 AM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;544590
that reminds me of something thats been in my head for the past week: Why isn't there an amiga package manager? Its far from impossible. just think:


>aminet-install netsurf

checking system... OS IS WORKBENCH, 3.1, M68060, AGA
checking libs... BLAH BLAH MISSING
downloading libs ... DONE
downloading netsurf ... DONE

Netsurf can now be found on your Work: partition, or another if specified at install time.


I'd rather that than spend three days solid googling weird files not even the developers can be arsed to list under system requirements.


just download a pre-installed workbench envirinment like classicamiga, amigasys or amikit.

back in the day i'd spend ages tweaking everything to squeeze that last drop of speed and functionality, which would often result in conflicts, now I can't be bothered.  download and install, yay!
 

Offline ElPolloDiabl

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2010, 05:45:11 AM »
Windows 95. (A million monkeys with typerwriters...and all that.)
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Offline marcfrick2112

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2010, 07:05:40 AM »
OK, my .10 cents... (since I want to respond to several points in this thread... :) )

Personally, I only upgraded to 3.5 because of the 'large hard drive support' ... OK, I had a pretty nice 3.1 setup with NSD, seemed like HD's > 4GB worked fine, then suddenly they didn't.... :(
   I like 3.9 w/ BB1&2, though I agree with Save 2600... I wouldn't want 3.5+ on anything less than an '040....

If you basically like 3.1, check out various software upgrades, etc.... I had 3.1 on my 1200T for Many years, still have it on my 4000/WE '040 .... Otherwise, there is an OS3.9 FAQ out there...

Upgrading to OS3.9 wasn't too hard for me... I had a pretty nice 3.1 system, installed 3.5 over that, twice. (first time was a major PITA), then 3.9... I don't get many 'missing libs' or similar probs....and actually, I still have many files from my OS1.3 days..... (R.I.P. A500 :( )

And yeah, a number of OS 3.9 progs. happily work under 3.1.... like IoTools... Yay!

Hmm, I have to ask a question... When you click an icon in 3.9 it is set as the current dir. , I thought this was in OS3.5+ , or was it also in OS3.1 ??

I also Wish for an Amiga 'package manager' or something..... I don't have a lot of probs. installing software, but when I do, they are a major Pain.....
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Marc Frick
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A1200T / \'060, 256MB, CD-R, OS3.9
A4000 w/ WarpEngine / 82MB , OS3.1
A4000 16MB, OS 3.9
A1200 , \'030 / 10MB
A1200 (stock)

CD32 :)

...And a very sick 4000T
 

Offline Hell Labs

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2010, 09:57:41 AM »
Quote from: stefcep2;544612
just download a pre-installed workbench envirinment like classicamiga, amigasys or amikit.
That's not really any kind of solution at all.

"hey can you help me fit an alarm to my '63 Zodiac?"

"Just buy a brand new car from any fine ford dealer!"
A1200 Computer Combat. OS3.0. No accelerator, no fastram, mouse soon. And ebaying it.
 

Offline Golem!dk

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2010, 12:38:10 PM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;544590
that reminds me of something thats been in my head for the past week: Why isn't there an amiga package manager? Its far from impossible. just think:
...
I'd rather that than spend three days solid googling weird files not even the developers can be arsed to list under system requirements.

Would this package manager still depend on the same developers?
~
 

Offline Hell Labs

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2010, 02:04:40 PM »
I'd imagine the package manager delvelopers would probably ask for a list of required libs and other files from the other devs.
A1200 Computer Combat. OS3.0. No accelerator, no fastram, mouse soon. And ebaying it.
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2010, 02:14:18 PM »
@Hell Labs

Amigasys 4 has an autoupdate feature which is similar in principle to Windows Update. Maybe a full blown package manager could be something for inclusion in the next version  of AmigaSys?

Weed
A4000D, Cyberstorm MKII 060, CV3D, Scandoubler, Deneb2.0; A3000D 040, CV64; A3000T, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV.
 

Offline Hell Labs

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2010, 03:21:06 PM »
That would be a great feature.
A1200 Computer Combat. OS3.0. No accelerator, no fastram, mouse soon. And ebaying it.
 

Offline Tumbleweed

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2010, 11:43:20 AM »
or if someone could port this to classic:

http://www.amiupdate.net/

Weed
A4000D, Cyberstorm MKII 060, CV3D, Scandoubler, Deneb2.0; A3000D 040, CV64; A3000T, PicassoII, Z3 Fastlane; A2000D, 040, PicassoII; A1200, Blizzard 030 MKIV.
 

Offline jenfry

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2010, 12:16:24 PM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;544590
that reminds me of something thats been in my head for the past week: Why isn't there an amiga package manager? Its far from impossible.

I'm thinking about clrmamepro, I think it does the same with the mame rom sets.

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Offline Hell Labs

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2010, 10:35:44 PM »
Your font! It burns!
A1200 Computer Combat. OS3.0. No accelerator, no fastram, mouse soon. And ebaying it.
 

Offline stefcep2

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2010, 03:52:10 AM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;544624
That's not really any kind of solution at all.

"hey can you help me fit an alarm to my '63 Zodiac?"

"Just buy a brand new car from any fine ford dealer!"


WTF?

You're not getting a new computer, you're getting all the updates you need to to improve the functionality and perfromance of your machine without having to go out and hunt them down, configure them, work out the conflicts, all you need is a Workbench 3.1 disc or ADF.  How easy is that?
 

Offline stefcep2

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2010, 03:53:23 AM »
Quote from: Tumbleweed;544665
@Hell Labs

Amigasys 4 has an autoupdate feature which is similar in principle to Windows Update. Maybe a full blown package manager could be something for inclusion in the next version  of AmigaSys?

Weed


Amikit too.
 

Offline Hell Labs

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2010, 09:02:35 PM »
Quote from: stefcep2;545029
WTF?

You're not getting a new computer, you're getting all the updates you need to to improve the functionality and perfromance of your machine without having to go out and hunt them down, configure them, work out the conflicts, all you need is a Workbench 3.1 disc or ADF.  How easy is that?

Terrible? There's more work there doing stuff like disabling eyecandy bollocks and tweking it so it'll actually run at a usable speed on real hardware, than there is to work your way up from standard 3.1.

The exception to that is Cwb because that was made by someone you could describe as "sane".
A1200 Computer Combat. OS3.0. No accelerator, no fastram, mouse soon. And ebaying it.
 

Offline stefcep2

Re: The Workbench 3.1 natural successor?
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2010, 12:29:54 AM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;545126
Terrible? There's more work there doing stuff like disabling eyecandy bollocks and tweking it so it'll actually run at a usable speed on real hardware, than there is to work your way up from standard 3.1.

The exception to that is Cwb because that was made by someone you could describe as "sane".

Which environment are you talking about?

Amikit, yep you really need an '060 to make this shine.  And it doesn't look or feel like an Amiga.  But under WinUae its great and looks better than any Linux theme I've seen.

Amigsys and ClassicWB have versions optimised for whatever hardware you have.  I have a 2 meg version of classicwb and it flies on an A1200, and has most of the essentials covered.  

AIAB is great too on low end hardware

Really an '030 and some fast ram with classic wb will give you all the functionality of AmigaOS 3.5+, with all the patches that would take you a lot of time to get done yourself, and its faster.
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