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Offline sjprohaska

OS 3.1 graphics
« on: September 28, 2009, 04:01:49 AM »
Is it possible to make Workbench 3.1 on an A1200 look as good as 3.1 on Amiga Forever 2009?


Thanks
 

Offline ChaosLord

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2009, 05:36:36 AM »
I assume you are the kind of person who bought a 16 million color graphics card for your bgcpc but did not buy one for your Amiga?
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Offline sjprohaska

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2009, 05:46:53 AM »
What is a "bgcpc"?  Do you mean PC?  The only other graphics card in my A1200 is an Indivision scan doubler.
 

Offline QuikSanz

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2009, 07:16:48 AM »
Hi,

That's the problem. AGA does not have enough colors to do what yo want. Time for a graphics card.

Chris
 

Offline sjprohaska

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 07:26:35 AM »
Thanks to all.  A simple "no" to my first question would have been ok.  I'm not really ok with the "I assume you're the kind of person....." that I got from the first responder.  I should have mentioned it is a desktop A1200 and not a tower, but I guess that makes me guilty of "assuming" as well.

Thanks.
 

Offline NovaCoder

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 07:59:59 AM »
Hiya,

Don't worry about them, maybe it's the wrong time of the month or something.

Anyway to answer your question, this screen-grab show's (about) the best you can do with an AGA only machine.

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Offline Thomas

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 12:10:16 PM »
Quote from: sjprohaska;524141
Is it possible to make Workbench 3.1 on an A1200 look as good as 3.1 on Amiga Forever 2009?
Thanks


Yes, certainly it is. Amiga Forever up to version 6 is based on Workbench 3.1 and looks just the same as current versions.

You need:

- set screenmode to 256 colors and preferably a mode with 1:1 aspect (e.g. Multiscan, DblPAL or the like).
- install GIF, PNG and JPEG datatypes
- get your favourite wallpaper and set it in wbpattern prefs
- install newicons (the program, not the icons)
- download your favourite icon set from Aminet and replace the standard icons by the downloaded ones. This is a lot of manual work.
- install Toolmanager and cusomize it.

That's what AF contains. In addition you might want to install VisualPrefs and some other patches which allow to change the appearance.

Bye,
Thomas

Offline sjprohaska

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 08:13:06 PM »
Thanks.
 

Offline CLS2086

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 08:31:34 PM »
Keep in mind that it will use a lot of Chipram (which is used for Video ram too)...
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Offline mr_a500

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2009, 09:14:28 PM »
Or you could go with 16 colours and save chip RAM. 16 colour WB 3.1 can also be made to look good.


Offline mr_a500

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2009, 09:37:14 PM »
Or you could go with 16 colours to save chip RAM. 16 colour WB 3.1 can be made to look good too.


Offline marcfrick2112

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2009, 09:19:39 AM »
mr_a500: rather nice screenshot there! Any chance you could share that DCTV icon?

@sjprohaska:  As mentioned, without a graphics card, you will run out of colours/ Chip RAM, sooner or later. For my backdrops, I use ImageF/X to reduce the colours of the background pic.. can help with appearance, and to conserve chip ram... (a bit)  It can be tricky, but OS 3.1 can be made to look pretty. You may have to experiment....   The sad thing is, my old A500 WB looked prettier than my current A1200 WB.... but a lot has to do with laziness, and losing a great deal after a HD failure.... :madashell:

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A1200 , \'030 / 10MB
A1200 (stock)

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Offline kvasir

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2009, 02:42:52 PM »
You might want to take a look @ AmigaSYS. (http://amigasys.extra.hu/amiga.html , link button doesn't seem to work in IB) Not used it myself, as I'm too picky at customizing my machine, but the screengrabs look nice. Though it seems a bit more of a custom software install, too. (If you're starting from a plain vanilla install it might be helpful, though)

EDIT: Browsing through the screenshots, I remembered I did install Amigasys on a bootable zip drive. Worked pretty well, used some of the proggies and graphics on my Sony CliƩ UAE installation.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2009, 02:49:14 PM by kvasir »
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Offline wawrzon

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2009, 03:33:52 PM »
@mr_a500: looking at that i almost regret having a gfx card and a 1680x1050 lcd. my workbench looks like a pile of trash compared to that.
 

Offline kvasir

Re: OS 3.1 graphics
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2009, 03:40:45 PM »
@mr_a500

Yes, that is an impressive use of a 16 color display!
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