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Offline Karlos

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2009, 11:05:12 PM »
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Offline kickstart

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2009, 01:02:34 AM »
@the_leander

You talk about ismart post about browsers... or im dreaming and suggesting a stupid test...
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Offline TheMagicM

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2009, 04:11:37 AM »
dont think that just because I said Haiku was more useable did I think MorphOS or Amiga OS was an inferior OS.  I like them both, just pointing out that Haiku is "compatible" with BeOS binaries just like MorphOS aims to be able to run 68k Amiga OS binaries and like Amiga OS should be (with respect to Amiga OS classic binary compatibility).  All three have a embedded base (shareware, software repositories etc) except our beloved OS of choice takes forever to get to hardware that we want.
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Offline the_leander

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2009, 07:41:46 AM »
Quote from: kickstart;523625
@the_leander

You talk about ismart post about browsers... or im dreaming and suggesting a stupid test...


Err nope, I didn't mention browsers. Not once anywhere in this thread until this post and I cut the comment short because that was a separate point. There was no test either, so I can only suggest you didn't bother reading one word of what I wrote.

TheMagicM stated that right now, Haiku is more usable then AmigaOS is.

Which is correct. It is.

I still love the old miggy and it holds a place in my heart that no other OS will, but it has limitations that cannot be ignored. Bawwing that pointing it out is inappropriate earned some mockery, likewise your response was equally worthy of ridicule.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 07:44:00 AM by the_leander »
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Offline persia

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2009, 02:08:00 PM »
I really like Haiku, they didn't just blindly recreate Beos, they gave it a few modern feature as well.  It's hardware requirements are low, it's organisation logical and yet it's not completely foreign to users of modern OSs.  I know the concentration right now is on developing a desktop version but I hope they consider making a version for mobile devices.

In a way it's a lot like what I would have expected from Amiga OS had it's owners survived the '90s and continued to develop the OS.
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Offline the_leander

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2009, 02:45:07 PM »
Quote from: persia;523657
I really like Haiku, they didn't just blindly recreate Beos, they gave it a few modern feature as well.  It's hardware requirements are low, it's organisation logical and yet it's not completely foreign to users of modern OSs.  


Yup, its not as bulked out as Zeta was, but not so bare as BeOS... It's its own thing.

Quote from: persia;523657

I know the concentration right now is on developing a desktop version but I hope they consider making a version for mobile devices.


So, a HaikuIA alike? Speaking of which... Somewhere around here I still have my BeIA image build tools. Some very cool stuff was made just prior to Be Inc's death. Tbh with the use of either webkit or firefox one could probably reproduce BeIA in a purely OSS form (the original BeIA used Opera 4 as the basis for it's gui)

:afro:

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In a way it's a lot like what I would have expected from Amiga OS had it's owners survived the '90s and continued to develop the OS.


Given that it took more then a few pointers from AmigaOS (amongst others), it's hardly surprising that it has similar features.  :)
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Offline mr_a500

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2009, 07:51:34 PM »
I'm glad to see that finally many of the problems that prevented me from using Haiku are gone. Every time I tried it before, network didn't work, sound didn't work and it wouldn't boot unless it was on its own hard drive without other partitions. All those problems are now gone. I'm posting this with Haiku. It might be time for me to switch from BeOS to using Haiku as my main OS.

BeOS software development has been totally dead for years. Hopefully programmers will get interested in Haiku and create some much needed programs. It's not Amiga, but it's more fun to use than the rest of the user-hostile bloat OSes out there.

Offline kickstart

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2009, 08:17:31 PM »
Quote from: the_leander;523642
Err nope, I didn't mention browsers. Not once anywhere in this thread until this post and I cut the comment short because that was a separate point. There was no test either, so I can only suggest you didn't bother reading one word of what I wrote.

TheMagicM stated that right now, Haiku is more usable then AmigaOS is.

Which is correct. It is.

I still love the old miggy and it holds a place in my heart that no other OS will, but it has limitations that cannot be ignored. Bawwing that pointing it out is inappropriate earned some mockery, likewise your response was equally worthy of ridicule.


OK, its old, limitations... but with morphsos or aos4 is more usable these days, and for usability, whats usability? is not the same for everyone.

We are talking about haiku like a top class OS and this isnt correct too.
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Offline the_leander

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2009, 09:23:17 PM »
Quote from: kickstart;523679
OK, its old, limitations... but with morphsos or aos4 is more usable these days, and for usability, whats usability? is not the same for everyone.


Oh we're going down this road... Right.

You just can't stand the fact that someone pointed out that MorphOS and or AmigaOS4 are both in terms of software and hardware less capable then something else.

Quote from: kickstart;523679

We are talking about haiku like a top class OS and this isnt correct too.


There you go again, you really can't help yourself, can you? This is an Alpha release of Haiku, not even close to the finished product!

@MrA500 - last time there was a major jump in software development was off of the back of Zeta, sadly with the collapse of that (cheers Bernd Korz), it looks like it was pretty much tools down if bebits is anything to go by.

So I agree, hopefully this will be the stimulus to expand beyond maintaining a handful of ports for key software such as firefox and VLC.
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Offline kickstart

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2009, 10:57:32 PM »
OK... understand what you want
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Offline gaula92

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2009, 09:39:23 AM »
Have you tried any BeOS game on Haiku?
What games were available for BeOS back in the day? I love discovering OS's with their games: it's a great way to explore their response, their look & feel, their sound and graphics characteristics... I'm talking about classic games: Lemmings for BeOS or something like that?
 

Offline the_leander

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2009, 11:01:19 AM »
Quote from: gaula92;523714
Have you tried any BeOS game on Haiku?
What games were available for BeOS back in the day? I love discovering OS's with their games: it's a great way to explore their response, their look & feel, their sound and graphics characteristics... I'm talking about classic games: Lemmings for BeOS or something like that?


Games on BeOS were fairly limited.. There were ports of Quake 1&2, as well as QW, There was an (incomplete and hard to acquire) port of Worms Armageddon, Doom, Rise of the Triad and a handful of home-grown games of dubious quality.

Had a pretty good port of ScummVM though, which kept me amused for days with such classics as Beneath A Steal Sky and Monkey Island.

YMMV.
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Offline Karlos

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2009, 11:18:28 AM »
@the_leander

Oi, you nicked my activity medal :p :)
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Offline the_leander

Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2009, 11:49:36 AM »
Quote from: Karlos;523719
@the_leander

Oi, you nicked my activity medal :p :)


Is that some delicious bawwing I hear? :lol:

Who knows, given a decade or more, I might conceivably be able to challenge you for the post count record ;)

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It all comes of having earned myself a week long ban on another site whose name I cannot mention for fear of breaking rules 1&2 of the interbutts :D
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Re: Haiku R1/Alpha 1 released
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2009, 11:58:50 AM »
Was it fight club.   I always thought the first rule of fight club should have been, Dont watch fight club.
 
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