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Offline Wayne

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2009, 04:10:28 PM »
Quote from: Speelgoedmannetje;510363
I miss the faces of amiga.org link
Maybe the site could make it easy for users to add a picture of themselves. It's nice to see who you're talking to :)
I can add categories for user photos to the album, but didn't really want to take away from the Faces page creator.

Also, I just put up a block, but the only URL I have doesn't work;

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/christopher.sheffield/facesofamigaorg/

Same with the Web Chat interface.  Last I have is;

http://irc.cyberfingers.com/cgiirc/irc.cgi

What's the current one?

Wayne
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Offline JC

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2009, 07:14:21 PM »
Quote from: Wayne;509996
For my next magic trick ladies and gents, I invite the audience to participate in what happens.

Now that @ao e-mail addresses are fixed and the bug list is low, I'm thinking about the next great whathaveyou to build and would love your input, by way of vote (or comment).

Which of the above would you prefer to see next?

Wayne


I like the idea for a mods repository, especially if you could play and listen to them while browsing Amiga.org.
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Offline jupo42

(RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2009, 09:26:32 PM »
Like the idea of a knowlegebase. That's what alot of the forum is used for already.

In a few months, I might have my collection of AmigaWorld and Amazing Computing mags in a readily accessible location again, and could put aside a couple hours now and then to search through these old sources for tips and tricks of the time, too. Sounds like fun... :)

Don't see much point in Yet Another File Repository.
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Offline orange

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2009, 09:47:58 PM »
I voted for user registry. In my opinion, it would be very helpful, esp. when trading and troubleshooting.

Aminet still works, and I presume amiwrz are out of question. But there might be some use in storing other files beside photos. for eg. config files, temporary source code files,..
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Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2009, 08:20:28 AM »
Quote from: amigadave;510274
plus many of the newest next generation applications, games and patches for BOTH AmigaOS4.1 and MorphOS2.2


AmigaOS 4 has OS4Depot.
MorphOS has MorphOS Files.
Another archive site would not hurt but will it add something new?
 

Offline motorollin

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2009, 08:33:40 AM »
+1 for the knowledge base. I would like to see a kind of intelligent knowledge base which can take user input into account when presenting its answer. Take the old chestnut of "how do I copy files from my PC to my Amiga?". The answer will depend very much on the user's hardware configuration. So the knowledge base document could contain a series of tick-boxes, such as:

- My Amiga has Workbench 1.3
- My Amiga has Workbench 2.04
- My Amiga has Workbench 3.0+

- My Amiga has a floppy drive
- My Amiga has a hard drive
- My Amiga has a CD-ROM drive
- My PC has a floppy drive
- My PC has a CD-Writer

- My Amiga has a network card

etc. The knowledge base then presents an answer which is appropriate for the user's hardware (e.g. burning to CD if the user's PC has a burner and Amiga has a CD-ROM, or using floppies if both machines have floppy drives and the Amiga is able to read from MS-DOS disks etc. Clearly some more desirable answers would take priority over others if more than one is applicable.)

I know that this is probably asking a lot if there is no existing back-end to support this type of knowledge base. I'm just making the suggestion in case there is. And I would be prepared to write some documents. The idea of writing it once and then being able to link to the article whenever somebody else asks the question is very appealing.
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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

Offline ElPolloDiabl

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2009, 09:05:15 AM »
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- My Amiga has Workbench 1.3
- My Amiga has Workbench 2.04
- My Amiga has Workbench 3.0+

- My Amiga has a floppy drive
- My Amiga has a hard drive
- My Amiga has a CD-ROM drive
- My PC has a floppy drive
- My PC has a CD-Writer

- My Amiga has a network card


Don't stop there start coding...
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Offline motorollin

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2009, 09:13:01 AM »
Quote from: Fanscale;510541
Don't stop there start coding...

Actually I am thinking about it. Shouldn't be too hard to knock up the code. It's just a case of integrating it with a.org.
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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

Offline Varthall

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2009, 12:46:15 PM »
It depends what would be the purpose of the files repository. If it would be just an archive of the most used and needed sw, such as drivers, guides and so on, I'm all for it. If it would be meant as an alternative to Aminet, then I'd disagree. For OS4 software we already have Aminet and OS4depot, and I always try to avoid that archives in one repository aren't available in the other one. I always upload my software on both, and from time to time I upload missing OS4 stuff to Aminet with permission from the authors, comparing file per file and uploading what's missing. All this is a lot of work, and another repository would mean even more work. From an user point of view, it would mean that he'd have to search in different repositories to be sure that a software is, or isn't, available. What I have always liked of Aminet is that it has always hosted most, if not all the existing freeware/shareware stuff available for Amiga.

If the problem with Aminet is its UI, why not just develop an alternative UI for it, with the collaboration of its maintainers?

Varthall
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Offline buzz

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2009, 01:19:49 PM »
Quote from: JC;510415
I like the idea for a mods repository, especially if you could play and listen to them while browsing Amiga.org.


http://www.modland.com ?
 

Offline motorollin

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2009, 02:06:32 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;510584
You can join a single table multiple times in a query by using an alias name for each invocation of the join. However, building up large queries with a lot of joins and dependencies is not often a good idea, especially where these are generated from code. It's possible to end up generating queries that can never actually complete if you aren't careful.

Could you give me an example of a situation where this might happen? Surely the worst case scenario is that no records are returned?
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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

Offline motorollin

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2009, 02:08:43 PM »
Quote from: buzz;510587
almost but you need to join the C table.

Oh yes... it would have taken me a while to spot that when it didn't work ;)

Quote from: buzz;510587
You may have only heard of joins but you are already using them

AND B.solution_id = A.solution_id

is a join (implicit)

Ahh ok. I learned how to do this from a guy where I used to work when I was thrown in a the deep end developing an asset tracking and management app in PHP/MySQL. He referred to them as linked tables not joins, though if I switched my brain on I probably could have spotted the similarity between the words "link" and "join" ;)

Quote from: buzz;510587
I recommend some reading up a bit of sql and database design. will save time later on not making mistakes early on in your schema.

I usually just try it and see what happens then read if I need to. Can I just do that please? :D
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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

Offline Wayne

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2009, 02:40:11 PM »
Ok, let's look at this from a pros/cons perspective;

Files repository
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Pros

  • Tailored right, there's plenty of niche that could be filled
  • It would provide a good service to the community, but only if it offered something special.
Cons

  • It's been done, repeatedly, the best example of which is Aminet
  • If it took off, and that's about a 5% chance, it would require massive amounts of space and bandwidth to accommodate the community
  • It would ABSOLUTELY require at least one dedicated volunteer to staff, populate, and maintain the collection.
  • Chances are equal that the massive amount of work to build it would amount to very little use, considering the number of actual users in the dwindling community.
  • Virus controls - how?
International User Group Registry (not user registry)
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Pros

  • An updated one doesn't currently exist to the best of my knowledge.
  • I have a good idea already for the db schema needed, thanks to Tekmage (UGN)
  • It might help people reconnect on a local level or find people when traveling.
Cons

  • The Internet has pretty much killed almost all local user groups.  The few that remain are fairly more "dinner groups" than user groups.
  • What information comes from local groups which cannot be found globally?
  • I would estimate less than 50 physical user groups worldwide in 2009.
  • Social Groups already exist here and could be used by any user groups that want them in order to converse and manage their business.
Music Mod Repository
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Pros

  • Gets people back into the Web site
  • Could be interesting and/or fun
Cons

  • Again, if successful would need lots of space and bandwidth
  • Several good examples already exist on the net
  • it would require a dedicated volunteer to staff, stock, and maintain
  • Formats would have to be firmly decided.
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Offline buzz

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2009, 02:42:34 PM »
if you wanted users to choose from some mods, and have some embedded player on the site or something, I would be happy to offer you direct mysql access to my modland database.
 

Offline Wayne

Re: (RFD) Which would you prefer next?
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2009, 02:59:21 PM »
motorollin, Karlos, Buzz,

Mostly because I wanted to see if vB worked correctly, the off-topic conversation re: MySQL programming has been moved here;

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47964

Sorry for any inconvenience, but it's cool that vB works to let mods split conversations.

Guess we really need a "Web Development" forum eh?
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