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AuthorTopic: On-board sound? Now we're talking!  (Read 2000 times)

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Offline whabang

On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« on: October 22, 2002, 09:06:04 AM »
Oh, yeah!
Check THIS out!

Perhaps it isn't very useful, but waaaay cool!
Beating the dead horse since 2002.
 

Offline yssing

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2002, 10:52:40 AM »
Have seen it some where before, but it is kinda funny.
But imagine the power it consumes and the heat...
But computers with vacume tubes does sound rather funny...
 

Offline tonyw

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2002, 11:39:10 AM »
Isn't that the thing that Asian1 has bought?

tony
 

Offline whabang

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2002, 11:44:12 AM »
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tonyw wrote:
Isn't that the thing that Asian1 has bought?

tony

Nope! Not unless he's got an  AMD Clawhammer...
Beating the dead horse since 2002.
 

Offline KapitanKlystron

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2002, 12:09:08 PM »
There is a simular board for the current proccessors.Although it has only one tube. Most likely a dual triode. I really don't understand why you would need any more heat sources on a motherboard. Besides any of the mostly imagined befefits of tubes can be had with MOSFETs.
 

Offline whabang

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2002, 12:12:23 PM »
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KapitanKlystron wrote:
There is a simular board for the current proccessors.Although it has only one tube. Most likely a dual triode. I really don't understand why you would need any more heat sources on a motherboard. Besides any of the mostly imagined befefits of tubes can be had with MOSFETs.

Probably. But it's still cool! :-D
Beating the dead horse since 2002.
 

Offline whabang

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2002, 12:12:23 PM »
dJ00l p0Z7
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Offline Argo

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2002, 12:36:51 PM »
neat, Is this the wave of the future? I saw a sound card the other day that had a vacuum tube on it. I'm getting some spooky feelings that future computers will look like a regect from a 1960 B Sci-fi movie with a souped up processor and a massive heat sink. All I know is, I want Tesla Coils with my computer. Ooo, and a Jacob's Ladder would be nice too.... Muu hahahaha. It's alive, Alive, ALIVE!!!
 

Offline Phoenix

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2002, 01:02:46 PM »
This is retro computing at its most eccentric.

I love mixing the old and the new. How may Amiga users have of a sid based pc sound card or a complete Amiga on a PCI card.

Its all good, great thread!! :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D
Rising from the ashes
Base the hardware on the future and use the convictions of the past..
 

Offline Blomberg

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2002, 05:04:33 PM »
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Perhaps it isn't very useful...

Oh man, you're lucky this isn't a musicians forum. You'd get flamed to hell for that remark  :-D

Tubes are creme de la creme in the music world.
A good, expensive guitar amplifier has tubes, I'm about to buy a microphone preamp with tubes ... I could go on but instead I'll put it simple:
Tubes=good, expensive - solid state=bad, cheap

I'd definitely go for a Tube sound card if they were available in 24 bit/96kHz (i don't know much about them yet, maybe they are).

Tubes give an amplifier a warmer/more life-like sound and in recent years (with everything being retro) they have become far more popular than their solid state counterparts.

Even some computermusicians insist on running their music out of the computer - through some form of tubed device (mixer/amp/whatever) - and then back into the computer instead of just exporting the audio directly to cd/wav/aiff/mp3/whatever.
And someone told me about an effect plugin (for audio apps) that simulates the sound of tubes (don't ask me how!), but I have been unable to dig that one up myself.

Btw., here is a topic on the topic  :-D

Offline Phoenix

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2002, 05:23:18 PM »
Id prefer a solid state/tube combo myself, tube pre-amp with a mofset etc power-amp.
Although I think tubes have a good sound, I think they are over-rated(and expensive) you could get the same effect from tailored EQ.

This could be a completely seperate thread.. :-)
Rising from the ashes
Base the hardware on the future and use the convictions of the past..
 

Offline Blomberg

Re: On-board sound? Now we're talking!
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2002, 05:44:10 PM »
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you could get the same effect from tailored EQ.
NO WAY!!

You can never get a solid state amplifier to sound like tubes with equalizing alone, solid state doesn't give you the depth of the tube sound, you would need to use some effects as well (hard to tell which, the tube sound is just ... different)
I once borrowed an early 90's Marshall amp (solid state) from a friend of mine (I don't own a decent guitar amp) for a track I was doing, but I could never get near the sound I wanted, so I ended up plugging the guitar straight into the sound card and used ReValver (effect plugin) instead.

Equalizing does go a long way, yes, but not all the way :-D

As for combined solid state/tube amps well, some of them are ok, and it's probably what I end up having, but an OOOLD tube amp is the way to go (I acted too slow on a cheap old Orange top once - AARGH!!).

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This could be a completely seperate thread..  
Yes probably, it's a matter of faith, really  :-D