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Offline amigauser17

is the amiga worth going back 2
« on: August 10, 2003, 02:26:11 AM »
i thinking about going back to the amiga but due to now going to the powerpc chip that it would not last 4 years.
 i understand how to use the amiga but do the classic amiga work with brodband or not i also can't wait for the realse of os 4.0 im willing to write programs for it after i learn't it langaue so

games don't bother me i now there was a good few out once i had once i use and amiga 500

1. what would u say if i was to develop p2p clients eg kazza lite to the amiga i may be able to get it done in the future only time will tell  :-D
 

Offline kolla

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2003, 02:32:16 AM »
What do you mean by broadband?

Personally I have had all my amigas on ethernet since 1995 or so, and there is yet DSL avaible that is any quicker anyways.
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Offline amigauser17

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2003, 02:41:29 AM »
well i have a cable modem what i relly mean was would i have to hook it up to my pc to use my broadband
 

Offline KennyR

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2003, 02:44:27 AM »
PPC is the only way the Amiga can go, commercially. There's no money in selling PCs.
 

Offline amigauser17

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2003, 02:48:13 AM »
yep i know that i willing to buy and amigaone  later on probley this year but can the classic amiga be hook up to brodband without a pc i got lot of classic games but i can bet it wouln't run all 68k classic amiga games
 

Offline Opus

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2003, 03:22:43 AM »
yes, classic Amigas can do broadband, the NIC cards are expensive, 100-150 USD
 

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Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2003, 05:31:56 AM »
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amigauser17 wrote:
yep i know that i willing to buy and amigaone  later on probley this year but can the classic amiga be hook up to brodband without a pc i got lot of classic games but i can bet it wouln't run all 68k classic amiga games


I would not recomend buying a classic Amiga to expand the hell out of at this point, it is NOT cost effective. If you want to play games mainly buy an old or new Amiga 500. If you want web surfing and all the modern conviences either wait for OS4, or pick up a Pegasos/MOS now.

To answer the question about broadband on a classic Amiga sure it can, my A3000 was hooked to a DSL connection. Cable modem can be done also without a PC, but the cable modem itself should be an external ethernet. Some new model cable modems are routers in and of themselves, otherwise you will want to have a router also. Now you must consider what the Amiga itself needs. at bare minimum I'd say a 020 accelerator, etheernet card and TCP/IP software like Miami(not available) or Genesi that comes with OS3.9. ideally you would want at bare minimum a 68060 with 128Meg RAM, ZIII or PCI gfx card and other upgrades. Websurfing on a slouchy slow OCS/ECS/AGA Amiga is no fun!

So really once you purchase a second hand big box Amiga (or frankenstein A1200) and upgrade the hell out of it to get it modern you have dropped >$1000 easy. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary. If you do go the classic route, Elbox has some neat hardware. There are really too many options out there, Amigaforever for the PC is a neat bandaid option.

If you are interested in a  new A500 look here.

If you are interested in Pegasos/MOS look here and here.
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Offline amigauser17

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2003, 05:42:56 AM »
thanx for the information my main computer relly is the amiga one with os 4.0 when it comes out this mophers os ur talking what does it come in like of speed eg loading times for applications and how fast is the boot times i never heard if i new it was there i probly of been on it thanx for the info.  :-)

how fast is it with winuae emulatin
 

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Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2003, 06:11:09 AM »
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what does it come in like of speed eg loading times for applications


Depends on different factors for sure, but faster than any real Amiga for sure hands down.

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how fast is the boot times


My system a cold boot is probably ~10 seconds, mostly the bios initializing. Warm boot is ~3 seconds.

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how fast is it with winuae emulatin


I don't get your question:-? winuae is for Windows, therefore it won't run on MorphOS. There is a version of UAE for MorphOS though. I havn't tried it yet.
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Offline amigauser17

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2003, 06:17:19 AM »
i meant uae thanx for the correction the mophors os look good and something that i could get hook on  is there any commerical games for pegos i heard there mean't to be a peoagos 2 comeing out can't wait 2 see that
 

Offline Targhan

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2003, 07:17:16 AM »
amigauser17:

With MorphOS there is very little need to use UAE, except for nasty hardware hitting old applications.  There is a UAE for MorphOS, but you'll find most applications either have a MorphOS port or run very well under JIT of the 68k.  For instance, IBrowse, FinalWriter, and ImageFX work lightning fast under JIT.  Amiga apps that have become MorphOS apps include fxPaint, Voyager, YAM, and fxScan.  

(the JIT of the 68k is invisible, and every application including the 68k ones effectivly run as native applications to MorphOS)
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Offline amigauser17

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2003, 07:25:33 AM »
yep i mostly will probley run uae as they said for games which require anyone know good emulater for it eg gameboy c64 for pegos
 

Offline Targhan

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2003, 07:37:50 AM »


MAME for MorphOS RuLeZ!!!  :-D :lol: :-D
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Offline amigauser17

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2003, 07:47:50 AM »
hey folks ur makeing the morphas sound better then the amigaone i going to have to think this 1 over before i chose which is going to be hard :destroy:
 

Offline Effy

Re: is the amiga worth going back 2
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2003, 08:31:13 AM »
Let's make things even more complicated for you. Another option is Amithllon, an Amiga emulator based on a Linux kernal that runs on a pc without Windows. Once installed the pc boots up and you get into Amiga workbench and have the benefit of cheap pc hardware. Pro is the megaspeed and option for huge memory, con is the small choice of hardware you can use (gfx card,soundcard,networkcard), but once you've sorted it out it works great. Mega-con : no A500 or A1200 native Pal support. Amithlon only works with software that is also desiged to work with gfx cards under Picasso96. Programs that rely on Cybergrafix software won't work ....