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Offline DeviceNet

ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« on: March 08, 2008, 07:02:08 PM »
Why in a world without walls and fences is there the need for windows and gates?!

Try to find milestone (david addison) pd / shareware

sure can get lha files, but WHY IN HELL LHA ffs KEEP IT BASIC to get the amiga tick. the purpose of lha seems illogical. ADF will work, lha wont hence that format is void.

seems like going from albany to perth via queensland! :madashell:
 

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Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2008, 07:38:56 PM »
There are ports of unlha for various platforms if you look for them...

Offline motorollin

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2008, 08:23:41 PM »
An ADF is much less convenient when using a real Amiga.

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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

Offline Speelgoedmannetje

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 09:13:57 PM »
Is it? Isn't there something like ADFOpus for the amiga?
There is adf2disk...
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Offline DeviceNet

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2008, 12:06:37 PM »
seriously theres a better way,

cannot open lha in winuae NOT A DOS DISK!

have wb and abasic

why in hell must this be so complicated

cant ppl simply release adf instead of lha, or is spite of simplicity the bigger FISH to fry?!
 

Offline Speelgoedmannetje

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2008, 12:08:24 PM »
WinRAR can open LHA files.
And for use with winuae, get Amiga In A Box (AIAB), and put the files in a harddrive dedicated folder.
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Offline Speelgoedmannetje

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2008, 12:13:06 PM »
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DeviceNet wrote:
why in hell must this be so complicated
Because the Amiga is a computer line, like Apple. Not just a console.
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Offline krize

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2008, 12:28:59 PM »
If its packed maybe it need a full up and running system (aka: Workbench)?

Lha/lzx its the standard, as said, just use WinRar.

Install something like AmigaSys, Amikit or ClassicWB for easy Workbench setup.
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Offline McVenco

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2008, 12:31:25 PM »
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DeviceNet wrote:

WHY IN HELL LHA

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the purpose of lha seems illogical. ADF will work, lha wont hence that format is void.

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cannot open lha in winuae NOT A DOS DISK!

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why in hell must this be so complicated


It isn't complicated. You just are confused about/don't understand the use of Amiga fileformats.

LhA is an archiver, just like RAR or ZIP. ADF is also an archive type, but in a disk image format.

And like Speelgoedmannetje said: Amiga is not a console (and WinUAE is not a console emulator). If you want to do more with it than just load ADF files to play games then better read some manuals and learn about the Amiga. Or buy a Nintendo.
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Offline DeviceNet

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2008, 12:42:02 PM »
the parameter in question was specifically why lha over adf - if it was avail in adf to run this topic would not have been created
 

Offline DeviceNet

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2008, 12:50:33 PM »
ok for example if i decompress

can i open the file from WB or Abasic (CHDIR etc?)
 

Offline foleyjo

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2008, 12:52:31 PM »
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DeviceNet wrote:
the parameter in question was specifically why lha over adf - if it was avail in adf to run this topic would not have been created


Well if its an Amiga DOS disk LHA will compact the files where ADF will make an image of the Disk so a LHA will probably be smaller than the ADF making it
1 - easier to download
2 - easier to transfer from PC to Amiga
3 - easier to unpack on an Amiga.

Also the files might run of Harddisk so it would be more pointless to transfer the files to floppy (or fake floppy) and then have to drag them from disk to harddisk when you can simply unlha them to a location of your choice.

NonDos Disks are unlikely to be LHA in the first place

Your question is more or less saying "Why have Zips when we have ISO's"
 

Offline melott

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2008, 01:40:13 PM »
LHA was the standard 'LONG' before ADF was ever
heard of.

If these are older files then naturally they would be LHA.

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Offline mpiva

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2008, 02:34:55 PM »
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DeviceNet wrote:
the parameter in question was specifically why lha over adf - if it was avail in adf to run this topic would not have been created


Probably because the file in not a disk in the first place.  ADF's are Amiga Disk Files.  Lha's are simply an archive/collection of files.  Also, I hope you understand that if you have an lha of AmigaBasic games, it likely does NOT include AmigaBasic itself.  For that you'll probably need an ADF with AmigaBasic on it.

It's no different than a PC.  If you wanted to run some MicrosoftBasic games, you'll first need to get MSBasic running, then you need to get a ZIP with some games.  Then unarchive the ZIP to a spot where MSBasic can find the files.  Then have some fun.

With the Amiga it's the exact same process, just change "MicrosoftBasic" with "AmigaBasic" and "ZIP" with "LHA".
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Offline motorollin

Re: ADF of PD/ Amiga BASIC games
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2008, 03:11:34 PM »
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motorollin wrote:
An ADF is much less convenient when using a real Amiga


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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Is it?


I think so. If I want to get software out of an ADF I have to either mount a virtual floppy then use a utility to write it, or dig out a working floppy and write the ADF, then copy the software from the floppy to where I want it. With an LHA, I just extract it directly to wherever I want it.

To the original poster:
I don't really understand all this aggression towards software packed with LHA. Remember that most software on Aminet has been there for many many years, since way before ADFs existed. Do you expect all the authors to go back and re-upload their software in ADF format just for the benefit of people who can't be bothered to work out how LHA files work? :roll:

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Code: [Select]
10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10