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Offline Corrie

Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« on: July 20, 2003, 11:58:48 AM »
Hi All,

I recently bought Freespace and Quake II from a
local Amiga dealer. I was dissapointed to see that
Quake II came in a clear CD cover without any system
requirements printed on a professional looking cover
like Freespace has.

I was further dissapointed to find that the PC version
infact was missing and I only had a PC userguide cd.
The Amiga Quake II cd that I got is copied on a blue coloured
cd and the cd cover looks like it is pirated. I was expecting
a silver cd and a clear professional cd cover print.

So at the end of it, I am still unable to install Quake II due
to the missing PC version and I am a little dissapointed
in the presentation of the Quake II packaging. Does anyone
else find this with Quake II?

I am happy to support Hyperion as they should be commended
for supporting the Amiga platform however when I pay 5 times
the amount for Amiga Quake II than for the PC version nowdays,
I would have expected a more professional presentation, more the same
as they have done with Freespace.

Any thoughts?  
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Offline Ni72ous

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2003, 12:06:35 PM »
Have you cantacted hyperion before posting this?
Its most likely the amiga version was pressed in small quantities and they have sold out so that may explain why you have a cdr version.
Ni72ous
 

Offline Jupp3

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2003, 12:15:33 PM »
Well, I was much more disappointed with Freespace...

Crashes constantly, during missions...

Didn't even bother buying their Quake 2 port
(Well, previous experience was so disappointing...)

And in any case, I rather use MorphOS native port of Quake 2

(Haven't tried Freespace on my Pegasos yet, will do so, when I have
enough patience... Hope it does better than on my A1200)
 

Offline Mad-Matt

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2003, 12:26:30 PM »
frreespace is rock solid on my crappy Blizzppc 040 / 603 175.

You can register with hyperion to download the updates which can fix potential problems, same with Q2.
 

Offline mikeymike

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2003, 12:29:59 PM »
By the sounds of things it is fairly standard at the moment for legal Amiga software to come on CD-R, but if this is the case it should be made known by the software manufacturer through their website or something.

I would advise asking Hyperion, see what they say.

Offline Corrie

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2003, 12:39:20 PM »
I have received a reply from Hyperion, they have
explained that Freespace is a commercial licence
and Quake II is not, therefore the reason for the
packaging.

On the missing Quake II cd, Hyperion have offered
to send a copy.

Overall I am still dissapointed in the packaging
however it has been exaplined to me why it is so.
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Offline HyperionMP

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2003, 12:39:31 PM »
We never made a secret about the fact that Quake 2 would come as a bundle of the PC version with a separate CD containing the Amiga version.

Quake 2 is GPL which makes it very difficult to justify the expense of actually licensing the full game and doing a professional pressing.

It was a bit of an experiment on our part, a community support project.

Having said that, you should have received the full Quake 2 PC version in your bundle.

What I find strange is that you do not contact your dealer which sold you the product.

 

Offline Warface

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2003, 12:41:30 PM »
"You can register with hyperion to download the updates which can fix potential problems, same with Q2."

There were problems with that. AFAIR the registration number on Heretic2 box was outside, and when I bought mine and tried to register it turned out someone has already registered with my serial. (It was very annoying, I even tried to contact Hyperion, but at the end I've asked a fellow Heretic 2 owner to send me the updates)

I don't have major complaints concerning Hyperion softwares (except the initial releases - what will happen if Hyperion won't be anymore, and there will be no place to download the updates anymore?). Most problems remaining after the updates are present in the original versions as well. As to updates needed - sadly it's a custom nowadays, there is such a rush in software development, buggy programs are the standard.
 

Offline HyperionMP

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2003, 12:44:52 PM »
It is very hard to take you seriously.

First of all, I already pointed out several times that you should contact our developers for support.

Several downloads are available.

More likely that not, you are running some kind of hack wich interfers with Freespace: MCP, Executive or Birdie are likely candidates.

Rather than doing so, you prefer to rubbish our product on a public website.

Secondly, the game was reviewed by a number of independent reviewers and nobody reported this so-called instability.

 

Offline Corrie

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2003, 12:50:35 PM »
Overall I am happy with Hyperion, Freespace runs
100% on my 060/CybervisionPPC. Quake II I am yet
to install when i get my PC cd, but I must commend
Hyperion on their support.

Atleast they have explained themselves well to me.
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Offline Alkemyst

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2003, 12:58:28 PM »
No problem with freespace here, low mem may make it packup in the end because of to many other programs running at the same time like Ibrowse2.3 & Amirc.
But some hacks will bring it down like FBlit will kill it on startup.

hmm, You prefer useing the MorphsOs Q2 native version that has less features & has less if any custom mods over the hyperion version that you have never played.
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Offline Lando

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2003, 01:27:12 PM »
Freespace worked fine on my A4000/CSPPC/Voodoo3, don't think I had a single crash.  
 

Offline Mikey_C

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2003, 02:08:16 PM »
I rarely post here, but I felt compelled to answer this post.

Both Freespace and QuakeII were reviewed in Total Amiga Magazine, both got great reviews

I have played Freespace on my Amiga1200T(BPPC/BVision) twice through, it's an awesome game which sucks you right in

QuakeII is incredibly smooth on my Amiga. It is a good enjoyable blast, well worth the money.

I feel disappointed in that people post before trying to resolve the issue throught the proper channels. The dealer from whom you brought the package, should have been your first point of contact.

Your post contains a bit of a fishy smell, because as a pegasos user, it looks as though you are trying to discredit Hyperion who are working on OS4.

NOTE: I'm not saying you are! It just appears that way.

Politics aside, I have every single Hyperion Amiga Game, they have all been excellent and well worth the money.


YNWA!
 

Offline Ni72ous

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2003, 02:16:20 PM »
@Corrie

I am not being funny or anything but you should have asked hyperion first and not posted here, it seems there is a constant witch hunt for amiga related companies, as soon as one thread finishes another is started, this witch hunt thing as well as piracy is most likely why alot of companies/ developers have left the comunity.
Ni72ous
 

Offline Jupp3

Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2003, 02:54:18 PM »
HyperionMP:

Sorry about expressing my personal opinion, which I am obviously not
allowed to have...

Well, I admit, haven't tried newest (quite recently released) update
on my A1200 too much... (Well, some time ago, some weird hardware
problem has been restricting its use, wouldn't use it much anyway,
hasn't been turned on within a month...)

I just got too bored trying to get previous version working... And
believe me, many time, I thought, that "Ah, now it works!" -untill it
crashed, yet again...

(And why bother, it's far too slow on my A1200 to be playable anyway)

Haven't tried it too much on Pegasos yet, haven't got it working yet
too well but that's might be due to settings...

But anyway, forgot what I wrote above - That's opinion, I, as legal
customer, am not allowed to have...