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Offline spider

OS4 rollout schedule
« on: June 17, 2003, 03:22:16 PM »
HEllo!,
Since the OS4 introduction tour ends on July 5, 2003, I suppose we won't see the official introduction until after July 5, 2003, Any comments? :-)  :-D  :-?  :pint:  ;-)
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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2003, 03:25:31 PM »
Were you really expecting it before then?!
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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2003, 03:51:29 PM »
Perhaps after July 5th on the classic PPC accelerated Amiga.  I still put money on 2004 before it's available on the AmigaOne.
 

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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2003, 03:53:14 PM »
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Wayne wrote:
Perhaps after July 5th on the classic PPC accelerated Amiga.  I still put money on 2004 before it's available on the AmigaOne.


You always were the optimist  :-D

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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2003, 03:56:59 PM »
I'm sure you have heard of the Draco?

Frankly, to get OS 4 to run on a chipsetless system is really not that much of a problem.

Otherwise things like Amithlon and the Draco could never have existed.

 

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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2003, 04:00:20 PM »
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HyperionMP wrote:
I'm sure you have heard of the Draco?

Frankly, to get OS 4 to run on a chipsetless system is really not that much of a problem.

Otherwise things like Amithlon and the Draco could never have existed.





Go on then, I dare ya!!!!  :-D  :-D   :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

-Edit- Easy eh? lets see AOS4 on a Peg then... now I double dare ya!!!  :-o


Question: How much of OS4 has been written? From what I can gather only exec and maybe dos and intuition have been "ported" to the PPC... at what point does this become an OS one asks? The implication is that the original AmigaOS is required to boot and provide a significant amount of functionality... if this is the case then quite a bit more work will be required to make the A1 boot.
Note: This is a genuine question not flame bait.

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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2003, 04:03:12 PM »
Ahhh... Bash them HyperionMP! =)
That's the comments I like to hear!
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cool things I will do with it! Not only with OS4 as I
don't think it will be ready this week, but also with
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Offline Terminills

Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2003, 04:18:19 PM »
@Bloodline

wouldn't only the chipset bashing parts need to be rewritten?  That and the 68K emu.  ... Just an assumption but that would be my guess.  as I'm not much of a programmer nor have I seen the source I wouldn't have a clue. Just a guess.
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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2003, 04:24:11 PM »
@HyperionMP,

Not trying to bash you there Ben, just pointing out my personal opinion regarding the timeline for OS4 on the AmigaOne.  Feel free to prove me wrong.

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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2003, 04:24:36 PM »
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Terminills wrote:
@Bloodline

wouldn't only the chipset bashing parts need to be rewritten?  That and the 68K emu.  ... Just an assumption but that would be my guess.  as I'm not much of a programmer nor have I seen the source I wouldn't have a clue. Just a guess.


Well, if they wanted to use the original OS to boot the A1, the A1 would have to look like an Amiga... that would mean getting a 68kemulator and some CIA emulation etc... not worth it...

And if the only parts of OS4 which are PPC are just a few core libraries It is going to take quite a bit of work to get them to boot an A1, quite a bit of missing functionality, there...


Still, I don't know, and they haven't told me so we will have to wait and see.

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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2003, 04:25:18 PM »
>Since the OS4 introduction tour ends on July 5,
>2003, I suppose we won't see the official
>introduction until after July 5, 2003, Any comments?

Juergen Schober said in the interview made by
AmigaArena that it is planned for July 5th to show
the first version of OS4 with a native version of
intuition.library.

He also said that OS4 will be released end of
summer for CybPPC and end of the year for the
AmigaOne (maybe an early preview version of OS4
for AmigaOne at the end of September/early October
at the OASE fair).
 

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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2003, 04:27:37 PM »
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zacman wrote:
>Since the OS4 introduction tour ends on July 5,
>2003, I suppose we won't see the official
>introduction until after July 5, 2003, Any comments?

Juergen Schober said in the interview made by
AmigaArena that it is planned for July 5th to show
the first version of OS4 with a native version of
intuition.library.

He also said that OS4 will be released end of
summer for CybPPC and end of the year for the
AmigaOne (maybe an early preview version of OS4
for AmigaOne at the end of September/early October
at the OASE fair).


given the amount of work required to make a PPC native AmigaOS (believe me, just look at AROS...) I would say end of this year and beinging of next is a good guess for an A1 release date.

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Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2003, 05:16:15 PM »
@Ben

The Draco has real CIAs, and Amithlon has a (minimal) CIA-emu.
Thats enough to start Kick3.1, but both still needed lots of extra drivers
and patches before they could even boot into WB.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

Offline Darth_X

Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2003, 05:58:49 PM »
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HyperionMP wrote:
I'm sure you have heard of the Draco?

Frankly, to get OS 4 to run on a chipsetless system is really not that much of a problem.

Otherwise things like Amithlon and the Draco could never have existed.



So what's preventing Hyperion from porting OS4 to the pegasos? Hyperion was offered a FREE Pegasos board, correct?

Is there  a contract with AmigaInc to limit OS4 to MAI manufactured AmigaOne's?


 

Offline Elwood

Re: OS4 rollout schedule
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2003, 06:15:10 PM »
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And if the only parts of OS4 which are PPC are just a few core libraries It is going to take quite a bit of work to get them to boot an A1


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