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Offline gsound

sirius II genlock serial cable
« on: January 04, 2007, 12:38:36 PM »
hi!
i have found a sirius II genlock,it works but..:boohoo:
the serial cable are missing :(
how to connect at my A600?
i can't find manual :getmad:
i can't find a pinout of serial cable db25-db9 :getmad:

are a great user :)whith manual of siriusII or
similar genlock whith db9 serial for construct my cable:)

thanks
   
A2000 (GVPhdScsi+8MegRam 2 1gb hd),A600 1Meg ( Whith 2 compactflash 256Meg Sys|Work,other machines 6800 and similar based :)
 

Offline gsound

Re: sirius II genlock serial cable
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2007, 12:24:05 PM »
 :-o
i cant find a working pinout for this f*** cable
i have tryed a db9-db25 standard serial  :pissed:
an a tv repair man ,she speak to me ''it's impossible
to find whit tester''  :cry:
please help me

A2000 (GVPhdScsi+8MegRam 2 1gb hd),A600 1Meg ( Whith 2 compactflash 256Meg Sys|Work,other machines 6800 and similar based :)
 

Offline Framiga

Re: sirius II genlock serial cable
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2007, 01:48:51 PM »
mhhh! isn't the serial connection/cable used only to control the Sirius through software?

AFAIK you can still use it with the genlock built-in controls anyway... or not?



 

Offline Homer

Re: sirius II genlock serial cable
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2007, 05:22:24 PM »
I don't know the Sirius, but there are two types of serial cable and you may have the wrong one. Wires 2&3 may or may not be crossed over on your cable and you may need the other type. You can either plug a "null modem" adapter into the DB9 end, or swap the wires over to find out.  
Please note that if the Sirius is not using standard RS232 then you may have already damaged it by using the DB25-DB9 lead. All modifications are at your own risk.
Good luck :pint:
Let X = X
{(c) Laurie Anderson}
 

Offline cpfuture

Re: sirius II genlock serial cable
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2007, 06:27:40 PM »
I recently obtained a Sirius II genlock as well, including manual, leads and software (congratulations, it's a nice genlock)  :-)

As to the serial connection, according to the manual, this is a regular serial cable. Framiga is also right in stating that the serial port is only needed if you want to control the Sirius II from your Amiga using the included software or using your own scripts (it has ARexx support).

Please note, that the serial lead is also used to draw power from the Amiga. If you do not connect the genlock via the serial port you'll need to power the Sirius II using a 12V adapter. Also if you have a lot of other peripherals connected to your Amiga, supplying the genlock with its own source of power is probably a good idea, whether you have the serial cable connected or not.


Offline CLS2086

Re: sirius II genlock serial cable
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2007, 08:39:51 PM »
Hi,
I got a Neptune and a Sirius with a Pegasus2 ISA Card.
They only need to get the power from the AMiga Video RGB connector.
The RS232C port is there only for enhanced control, not for powering.
You must have a trusty PSU of 50/60W at least and a well working A600.
I successfully tested them on my expended A1000 !!!

Does your POWER LED turn on when you push the power button ?
Do you well have the special DB23 -> DB15 cable ? if not ... :rtfm:
Keep the Faith !
VG 5000/A1000/500/500+/600/2000/CDTV/1200PPC-GREX/1200PPC -ATEO-BV/4060D/CD32/Aone/Peg 1/Peg2 G4/ various funny machines too  :-) http://www.mo5.com/collection/index.php?pseudo=CLS2086
I also repair drives of our old beloved Amiga
 

Offline Homer

Re: sirius II genlock serial cable
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2007, 09:33:34 PM »
CLS2086: He does mention that he cannot find tfm. Can you tell him what is special about this cable ? Pinouts ?
 :-?
Let X = X
{(c) Laurie Anderson}
 

Offline cpfuture

Re: sirius II genlock serial cable
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2007, 09:49:57 PM »
Unfortunately I was indeed wrong. Like CLS2086 said, the serial cable is NOT used for power. So it is totally optional (unless you want computer control over the genlock). The 'special' cable he is referring to is a cable that plugs into the RGB output of your Amiga. The other end is a 15-pin connector that plugs into the genlock. It is this cable that delivers power to the genlock and allows the Amiga to sync to the external signal.

Unfortunately the manual does not have any diagrams/pin configuration of this cable. I think it was specifically created by Electronic Design for the Sirius II (and perhaps some of their other models), so unless you got that cable together with the Sirius II you're out of luck. I'm sorry I couldn't be of any more help to you.  :-(

Offline gsound

Re: sirius II genlock serial cable
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2007, 12:16:08 PM »
Hi!!
Many thanks! boy's
forgive my bad english :) i'm learn it

for Captain Future and CLS2086
have a tester and know it? :)
(dont need a big knowledge..only led on led off )
can send a pvt??
 

To sum up!
my  position is

A Sirius Genlock ''clean'' purchased whith  nothing :(
all led and buttons it work! whithout  a connection
i can fading the channels and use the color correction
:( but not the croma\luma and other cool function

i have added:

a SiriusII.dmg ,found on net (his drivers and software)

a 12V(220V for Italy) 1000mA Power supply (recover from other videomixer)

for video i have build and adapter RGB>VGA Semplified (only shield cable and adapters)
similar at aminet scheme for connect the Ami at PC monitor ,but without circuit and resistors :)

Amiga      funzione      VGA

pin 3 ----segnale R----- pin 1
pin 4 ----segnale G----- pin 2
pin 5 ----segnale B----- pin 3

Cable Shield:

Amiga      funzione      VGA

pin 17 ----Shield R---- pin 6
pin 18 ----Shield G---- pin 7
pin 19 ----Shield B---- pin 8

And.. the infamous serial cable
i have tried this

9Pin   25Pin
1          8
2          3
3          2
4          20
5          7
6          6
7          4
8          5
9          22

i don't have find another Pin-out for serial (4 Homer )
null modem... .mmm is far off of serial
i have tryed your pinout,i have swaped the pin 2 data receive to pin 3 transmit data ... :( Doesn't work

i think ...(to conclude)the responce are 2:

1 my genlock are failing (buyed a fake)

2 yes..it's a very special cable (**** thanks Electronic design) to resolve A: crash my genlock whith hammer :)
B: i find a serious assistance center (are one on Milan)
far of me :(  

many thanks! at all user in my post  :)
and.. (why not) at all Amiga.org

Vi ringrazio Ragazzi!
Giorgio
 
A2000 (GVPhdScsi+8MegRam 2 1gb hd),A600 1Meg ( Whith 2 compactflash 256Meg Sys|Work,other machines 6800 and similar based :)
 

Offline Framiga

Re: sirius II genlock serial cable
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2007, 01:02:24 PM »
a genlock cable, is more than a simple straight RGB to RGB connection. (if the cable is long, a buffer/inverter chip is present in one of the connector, used to buffer the ExtClock signal)

There are others crucial wires (like ext clock, ext clock enable and some uses overlay/pixelsw)

From the Amiga side theres no problem to identify them (on the Amiga 4000 manual there are all pins assignements)

The "problem" is to find out the genlock side pin assignements.

Unfortunately i've never owned a Sirius so i can't help :-(