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AuthorTopic: In your opinion which was the best and the worst thing that Commodore did to the Amiga?  (Read 3355 times)

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Offline duesi

Best:
Selling AMIGA's , superb quality of the Hardware and OS

Worst:
Selling Copyrights to Escom

I still hate them (Escom) because they assembled PC's they couldn't sell ... and let the AMIGA die !
A4000D CS060/MKII with SCSI, CV64/4MB, 128MB Fast, ACARD AEC-7720U SCSI-IDE,80GB Samsung HDD, Yamaha CDRW, XSurf2, OS3.9BB2
A500,1MB Chip Kick1.3/3.1,GVP A500+ 540MB HDD and 8MB Fast,GVP DSS 8Bit Sampler
 

Offline MikeB

The Best: "Saving" Amiga from Atari.

The Worst: Focussing on IBM compatibles.
 

Offline commodore_jim

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Yes I think one of Commodore's main weaknesses was concentrating too much time and money on PC clones - time and money that would have been better spent on Amiga technology.

I don't think Commodore's PC clones were ever very highly rated. It's a pity they didn't realise this sooner and focus more on the Amiga from an earlier stage.

Still it wasn't all bad under Commodore. The themed packs were a great idea - the Batpack alone helped to shift more Amigas over the Christmas '89 period than you could shake a stick at and established it as the home computer of choice in Europe.

Plus, if Atari had bought the Amiga originally, they'd have consumed it whole. There would have been no ST and hence no clash of the titans for the remainder of the 80s and early 90s - a clash that led to some truly spectacular software being developed for both machines and which made owning a home computer truly exciting. Unlike today.
 

Offline Atheist

I really, really, hate xp. It keeps reloading the page, and I lost my post twice. I don't know how to turn it off.

There are SO MANY worst things they did, it's rediculous!

A1000, A2000, A1500, A500, A500+, A600 (the worst), CDTV (too expensive and underpowered, therefore, late.)
They were all THE SAME machine!

Discontinue A1000 then.
1) The A2000 and A500 should have had chip AND fast ram.
2) A 68020 @ 14MHz and OCS or ECS @ 14MHz.
3) WHat about a midi port?
4) A500 and A2000 should of had simm sockets on the motherboard for upto 32 megs of ram. All the rest below here as well.

Discontinue A2000, A500 then.
1) The A3000 should have been 25 MHz or higher.
2) ECS @ 21MHz.
3) And they should have kept the A2000 case!!!
4) They should have made a A500 version of it.
5) More blitter registers.

Discontinue A3000, A3500 then.
1) A4000 040 and A1200 030 @ 25 MHz and AGA @ 28 MHz.
2) Chip and fast ram.
3) At this speed , CD32 would have been feasable.
4) More blitter registers.
5) 32 megs chip ram.

They absolutely wasted their time with the PC compatables they made.

AmigaOne! Release AOS4.0 before it's ready = mistake.
\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
So I guess that A500, 600, 1000, 2000, CDTV, CD32, are pure garbage then? Thanks for posting here.
 

Offline BouncingAyatollah

Best:    Acquiring Amiga tech., releasing A500.
Worst: Dropping A3000+ for cutdown A4000, killing a winning formula (with A500+). The A600.
\\"Whose souls, albeit in a cloudy memory, yet seek back their good,
but, like drunk men, know not the road home.\\" -- BOETHIUS
 

Offline Atheist

Spent money on incorporating the "bridge board" feature onto the motherboard and then selling the bridge board for the same amount that it cost to buy a 286 with ram and monitor and hard drive and controller and second floppy and video card and internal modem and not an os.

Also, the PCs they sold were like 300 hundred dollars less than an IBM branded computer. WAAAYYYY too expensive. Why bother? And no-name clones were 600 less than Commodore's.

AmigaOne! Behind the 8th boing ball!
\\"Which would you buy? The Crappy A1200, 15 years out of date... or the Mobile Phone that I have?\\" -- bloodline
So I guess that A500, 600, 1000, 2000, CDTV, CD32, are pure garbage then? Thanks for posting here.
 

Offline Paul_Gadd

@Atheist

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really, really, hate xp. It keeps reloading the page, and I lost my post twice. I don't know how to turn it off.


It is not the operating system to blame but the user.

How to Stop Pages Automatically Refreshing

Some websites seem to enjoy automatically refreshing every couple of minutes (so you can get the latest ad banner). To stop them in their tracks, Double-click the Internet Options icon in the Control Panel, flip to the Security tab, press the Custom Level button, and disable the option "Allow META REFRESH"

 :-)
 

Offline bloodline

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This thead is old..... old as Commodore is dead.

So I shall repost the best response I have ever heard on the subject:

Best thing Commodore did for the Amiga:
Buy it.

Worst thing Commodore did for the Amiga:
Buy it.



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Offline Kronos

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@Atheist

SIMM-sockest on the A500/2000 ?

And where do you expect to have gotten them in 86/87 ?

Hint: Up to 1989 EVERYBODY was using single-IC DRAM.
Between 89 and 91 some used single ICs, some single ICs in ZIP-package (like the A3k) and
others used SIPPs. 8/9bit SIMMs were introduced somewhat later and IBM started using PS/2-SIMMs,
but those didn't catch on till 93/93, and since 95(or 96?) we had DIMMs (SDR). Now DDR-DIMMs are
the hot thing, but just wait another year or two ..


1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

Offline AmiGR

Theres many who tried to prove they were faster
But they didnt last and they died as they tried.....
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Offline Floid

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bloodline wrote:
This thead is old..... old as Commodore is dead.
Indeed, but the fun of making a lot of noise (over lesser-known things, perhaps) is that, sometimes, it makes DH or others appear with the background on *why* it didn't play out that way, whether Engineering had a strong opinion on the matter, and so forth.

You've got my agreement on the best comment in the thread!
 

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Floid wrote:
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bloodline wrote:
This thead is old..... old as Commodore is dead.
Indeed, but the fun of making a lot of noise (over lesser-known things, perhaps) is that, sometimes, it makes DH or others appear with the background on *why* it didn't play out that way, whether Engineering had a strong opinion on the matter, and so forth.

You've got my agreement on the best comment in the thread!


Yup, sorry, I didn't mean to sound so hostile. This is a great thread, and thus is the reason why I felt compeled to post  :-)

Offline JoannaK

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MikeB wrote:
The Best: "Saving" Amiga from Atari.

The Worst: Focussing on IBM compatibles.


Agree 100% ..
 

Offline Tomas

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The best: Superb hardware of Amiga.

Actually, comodore had nothing to do with developing the hardware  :-) They bought it cheap from some other people... If i recall right, there was a couple of persons who made the first amiga in they garage... but sadly they did not have the funding to go on with the project... so comodore bought it.

All comodore did was basicly milk this... they added some new upgrades now and then... but as you see now, they definitely didnt do enough... Amiga fell behind PC after a while  :cry:
 

Offline alx

Best thing: Believing in the potential of the platform at first.

Worst thing: Loosing faith in the platform towards the end.