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Offline SuperTurbo

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2005, 07:10:02 PM »
The specs for this game says it will run on a 060. Any tried this? Is it actually playable even at the lowest resolution?

BTW is it possible to play Quake 1 smoothly on a 060. Looks like crap to me unless I go into Tetris mode  :-D
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Offline JLF65

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2005, 05:21:44 AM »
I used to run Quake 1 on my 50MHz 060 A4000D. I had a CyberVision3D card (Virge DX GPU), so I had to keep the resolution down below 640x480 (I liked 480x360... that was pretty nice). It ran rather well, but it did it's own drawing. It didn't use hardware 3D... which was good because the CV3D was a real dog. Quake 2 was where id switched to relying on hardware 3D.
 

Offline nasty

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2005, 07:57:01 PM »
Well I got the quake2 demo and managed to finda amiga quake2 port, but when i try to run the game i get " cant open pics/colormap.pcx" doesnt anyoneknow what this means or how to fix it?
Specs:
A1200PT, mediator c/w voodoo 3 2000, sb128, 60G HDD,OS3.9,LITEON CDR, nec 4x4 changer,External Scan Doubler,Cocolino adapter,PS2 keyboard adaptor.

Morphos 2.6, mini mac g4 @ 1.25ghz.
 

Offline adonay

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2005, 08:07:54 PM »
how well wil it run on a Blizzie 240 with 256 mb ram + Bvison or is it better to use a voodoo 3 card for such.


adonay :-D
A1200 ACA 1230
 

Offline humppa

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2005, 08:56:23 PM »
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Vincent wrote:
QII should be the same, get the PC version, unpack it (or install it on the PC and copy the dir to the Miggy) and use the Amiga QII exe.  If you can find the Amiga QII exe.

To my knowledge there was never a Q2.exe officially released as Amiga-freeware, only a commercial release from Hyperion. So no way of "finding" it.
 

Offline JLF65

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2005, 09:06:37 PM »
@adonay,

The CPU is fine. Way plenty for Q2. The BVision is a Permedia 2 GPU, and while it isn't as good as the Voodoo3, it should be fine for Q2 as long as you don't harbor ridiculous expectations, like doing 60FPS at 1280x1024. The benches I've seen on PCs are 20-30FPS at 640x480.

The Permedia 2 was meant to compete with the Voodoo2, with the Permedia 3 competing with the Voodoo3.

By the way, Quake 3 does run on the Permedia 2, but generally only at about 1/2 to 2/3 the speed of Q2 with the same settings. With the release of the Q3 code last summer, maybe the Amiga might see a version sometime this coming year.
 

Offline adonay

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2005, 02:37:08 AM »
thank you for that info :-D

adonay :-D
A1200 ACA 1230
 

Offline trgse

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2005, 06:54:19 AM »
actually that wasn't a commercial release, Quake II was GPL'ed, the source code is available on aminet, I'll upload the exe's to aminet later today when I come home (the main exe's and the dll's the actual data you have to find yourselves :-) ).
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Offline humppa

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2005, 07:50:46 AM »
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trgse wrote:
I'll upload the exe's to aminet later today when I come home (the main exe's and the dll's the actual data you have to find yourselves :-) ).


Is this the PPC-version you are referring to? Who coded it? If I remember correctly, Hyperion also did a 68k version of Q2 that was available as an update to registered users.
 

Offline nasty

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2005, 11:27:26 AM »
that would be great trgse :-D I finally got a translation of the german read me for the warp Q2.exe

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QUAKE2 Port v0.5 (W3D PPC)

Copy QUAKE2 file please in drawer BASEQ2 and a BASEQ2: produce assign.  

per Shell with:

stuck 1000000 QUAKE2

Open QUAKE2.  

HP: if the screen grey remain should set please the gl_fashions in the file config. cfg on zero (set gl_fashion "0")

In FastFileSystem set the Buffer on 1500




But I have had no joy in getting it to work, All that i get is I run the q2 exe and it takes 10meg of memory and does nothing. What does he mean by a BASEQ2: produce assign ????

This version was created by Frank Menzel
Specs:
A1200PT, mediator c/w voodoo 3 2000, sb128, 60G HDD,OS3.9,LITEON CDR, nec 4x4 changer,External Scan Doubler,Cocolino adapter,PS2 keyboard adaptor.

Morphos 2.6, mini mac g4 @ 1.25ghz.
 

Offline humppa

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2005, 12:39:23 PM »
So is the version from trgse a different one than the old one (2002) from Frank Menzel?

I am unable to find the quake2.lha somewhere on the net. Frank  also removed it from his website.
 

Offline nasty

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2005, 01:02:43 PM »
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So is the version from trgse a different one than the old one (2002) from Frank Menzel?


I hope so, cause i cant get franks to work

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I am unable to find the quake2.lha somewhere on the net. Frank also removed it from his website.


I found it on fileplanet and after a 20min wait i managed to get it to download, so heres a direct link no waiting ( ok some waiting but not aslong as FP :-D Franks version

 

Specs:
A1200PT, mediator c/w voodoo 3 2000, sb128, 60G HDD,OS3.9,LITEON CDR, nec 4x4 changer,External Scan Doubler,Cocolino adapter,PS2 keyboard adaptor.

Morphos 2.6, mini mac g4 @ 1.25ghz.
 

Offline PPC

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2005, 02:57:49 PM »
Played Quake 2 on my A4000 with csppc+mediator+voodoo 3 3000 PCI (16MB), ran mighty fine in 1024*768*16 think it reached about 25-30 fps with peaks till 50 to 60 fps

I also played it on my A1200 with blizzard ppc (040/25 with 240Mhz ppc,128 MB+bvision) and the optimal res is 512*384*16
for an A1200 with this config.
but don't go multiplayer/online it will get pretty slow on ya if there are a lot of players in a level (more then 10)
640*480*16 was to hard on the Old permedia 2 with Q2.

What i found as a nice speedup is that you can assign some mem from your voodoo as system memory with the mediator.
Tested a Voodoo 4 4500 PCI (32MB) for a friend in my Amiga
i assigned 16 MB of gfx mem as system memory and things did
sped up.
maybe this causes less traffic over de PCI resulting in less problems with 8MB address space issue i cannot tell for
sure.

Q1 on the 060/50 CSPPC ran really amazing with the voodoo3, i could even play it in 1024*768*16, the sad thing was though there was/is a bug in 68k Q1 when walking into an area for the first time in a level it would run bog slow  :-(
Amiga is addictive coz it is fun to use

A1200 Elbox power tower, BPPC 040/25+603e 240 Mhz, 128 MB RAM,Bvision,Zorro IV&Zorro IV PCI busboard,X-surf,Buddha IDE
A4000 Elbox power tower,CSPPC 060/60+604e 233Mhz, 128 MB RAM,CvisonPPC, AriadneII
A600+Vampire V2,A604N+RTC,SUM USB keyboard controller,Topolino with logitech wireless keyboard&mouse
 

Offline humppa

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2005, 03:39:01 PM »
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PPC wrote:
Q1 on the 060/50 CSPPC ran really amazing with the voodoo3, i could even play it in 1024*768*16, the sad thing was though there was/is a bug in 68k Q1 when walking into an area for the first time in a level it would run bog slow.


I am running Blitzquake here in the Warp3D/68k version. It is even playable with a 68040/40. I was really amazed at the benefit I got from using V3/Warp3D instead of the version relying solely on CPU power. Especially in smaller rooms/halls, it runs absolutely smooth in 512*384*16.
I had the same problem with speed when walking into a wide area for the first time. I could increase the speed considerably by using several Commands which I put in the autoexec.cfg in the ID1 directory.
 

Offline JLF65

Re: Is There A Demo Of Quake II
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2005, 05:47:46 PM »
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PPC wrote:
I also played it on my A1200 with blizzard ppc (040/25 with 240Mhz ppc,128 MB+bvision) and the optimal res is 512*384*16
for an A1200 with this config. but don't go multiplayer/online it will get pretty slow on ya if there are a lot of players in a level (more then 10) 640*480*16 was to hard on the Old permedia 2 with Q2.


Hmm, probably because the PPC board's PCI interface is clocked at 25MHz instead of 33, and doesn't support burst cycles (not that I'm aware of at least). Anyway, you might also try 480x360. I rather liked that resolution on low-end video cards with games.